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posted by martyb on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-leave-your-kids-unattended dept.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/hot-car-deaths-down-significantly-this-year-and-experts-think-they-know-why/757822

The United States is on track to report its lowest number of pediatric hot car deaths in a year since record-keeping on the subject began more than three decades ago, and child safety groups are pointing to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic as a big factor.

With summer right around the corner, there have been two pediatric vehicular heatstroke fatalities across the country in 2020, well below normal for the first five-plus months of a calendar year. The average number of hot car deaths for children through June 10 is around nine, according to Jan Null, the founder of NoHeatStroke.org, a website that tracks hot car deaths across the country and analyzes vehicle heating dynamics.
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In past documented cases, the most likely days for children to gain access to a vehicle were Saturdays and Sundays, when school wasn't in session.

"With fewer parents and caregivers traveling to work, and fewer children attending childcare and pre-school, it is imperative that all drivers, even those without children, lock their unattended vehicles so children cannot gain access,"


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:35AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:35AM (#1007638)

    Don't worry. We're reopening everything tomorrow. Back to normal. MAGA - again!

    Seriously, how many deaths from COVID-19 alone? With cancelled physicals and such, how many delayed diagnosis of various cancers? Heart disease? Dementia? How do these stack up to what - a few dozen deaths a year in hot cars?

    Are drowning deaths down with pools and beaches closed? At least that is a leading cause of death in kids.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:27PM (#1007797)

      Apparently researchers don't know what work is. A fucking moron in 4th grade knows about causality.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @07:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @07:12PM (#1007866)

      Seriously, how many deaths from COVID-19 alone?

      Which ones do you want to count? The deaths of seriously ill people that happened to have the virus in addition? The suicides of the people left in despair without a job? The women beaten to death by their husbands stuck at home because "Covid"? And yeah, the preventable deaths due the state locking down long-term care and prevention for chronically ill people and those that didn't know. The deaths of those abandoned and left to starve in nursing homes, that the state neglected to monitor while it prohibited concerned relatives from accessing them?

      Are drowning deaths down with pools and beaches closed?

      The drowning deaths of those that pick unsafer natural bodies of water to swim in, because the government closed down the chlorine heavy pools?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:39AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:39AM (#1007640)

    +No school shooting.

    -More domestic violence/abuse.

    -Boost in xenophobia and racial abuse against Asians.

    +Cleaner air.

    - No sports.

    +No sports.

    Add on what you got.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:51AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:51AM (#1007642)

      - civil unrest due to people not having jobs for 4 months

      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:10AM (#1007643)

        + civil unrest

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:37AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:37AM (#1007653)

      What about Runaway? They been leaving him in the plant for dozens of hours, and he is overheating 'cause they are making him wear a mask! And he already was mordantly obese.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:20AM (#1007661)

        He ded. Coronavirus, probably.

        That's how it goes in the ozarks.

        Hee-haw. Even the degenerate Californificationers rag on them.

  • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:45AM (2 children)

    by ilPapa (2366) on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:45AM (#1007657) Journal

    When I hear, "hot car death", I think of driving a Shelby Cobra off of Hwy 101 and crashing in a fireball. I've been drinking since 6pm and don't care to read TFA, so I'm going to just assume that's what this is about.

    --
    You are still welcome on my lawn.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:55AM (#1007658)

      Live-axlel is a dinosaur-age garbage. It puts you in a ditch upside down. Even the august Ford Motor Corporation got "woke" on this.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:06AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:06AM (#1007660) Journal
      Sounds plausible.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:27AM (8 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:27AM (#1007662) Journal

    It is trivial to construct a temperature sensor and movement detection sensor linked to an alarm with just decades old technology.

    All those death casualties were completely unnecessary, unless they were actually sacrifices.

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    Respect Authorities. Know your social status. Woke responsibly.
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MostCynical on Sunday June 14 2020, @05:48AM (2 children)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Sunday June 14 2020, @05:48AM (#1007677) Journal

      it should be even easier not to leave your children locked in a car.

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      "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday June 14 2020, @06:28AM (1 child)

        by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday June 14 2020, @06:28AM (#1007684) Journal

        It should be easy not to drive fast, but there is a reason why cars have bumpers and seat belts...

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        Respect Authorities. Know your social status. Woke responsibly.
        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by gtomorrow on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:27PM

          by gtomorrow (2230) on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:27PM (#1007732)

          Mod -1, completely stupid.

          You're comparing safety features with leaving a living being in a closed vehicle under hot conditions by choice.

          I'll try to make it easy for you: the reason cars have bumpers, seatbelts (and airbags) is because there are external forces on the road outside of one's control. What you are suggesting is an overengineered oven timer for [stupid|irresponsible|lazy].

          Baby's on Fire.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @11:36AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @11:36AM (#1007727)

      Right. So the temperature sensor and movement detection sensor add $5 to bill of materials, but are jacked up to $500 by the time you buy the vehicle. Then the sensors start throwing off error codes after two years, so that your car won't start until you replace $500 sensor module. You idiotic Democrats think the State needs to babysit everyone all the time... if idiots like you took more personal responsibility instead of relying on idiot lights, then cars would cost $12,000 and last for decades.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by gtomorrow on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:38PM

        by gtomorrow (2230) on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:38PM (#1007737)

        You had me up to "$500 sensor module." But you blew it. You had to go full-tilt batshit "my team is better than your team nyah nyah nyah." Too bad.

        Not only does Mojibake Tengu contribute to the noise level here but he also inspires dissenting psychos to do the same! Impressive!

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @01:37PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @01:37PM (#1007747)

      This is what my city does with police cars for canine units. There's a temperature sensor, and when it exceeds the threshold, it automatically pages the officer and either turns on the air conditioning or rolls down the windows. Maybe turns the lights and siren on too, if memory serves.

      So not only is it trivial to construct with existing technology, even the implementation already exists. No reason this couldn't be in all cars.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:49PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:49PM (#1007833)

        There's no reason to install it in most cars, because leaving your children in the hot car is illegal.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Monday June 15 2020, @03:42AM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Monday June 15 2020, @03:42AM (#1008001) Journal

          There's no reason to install it in most cars, because leaving your children in the hot car is illegal unnecessary and stupid

          FTFY

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          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:40PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:40PM (#1007807)

    I'd love to see a study that looks at total expected deaths for the year and compares that to this year's actual count.

    Extra cancer deaths as people fear going to doctor offices for treatment (there was a study that showed this).
    Lower number of deaths from small children being locked in hot cars.
    Lower transportation fatalities (also already reported)
    Less gun violence (already reported)
    Lower number of cases of the flu and thus lower deaths due to the isolation efforts (also already reported).
    etc.

    If a net positive, I wonder if adding the extra deaths from COVID-19, if we still have a net positive as a result of the lockdown?

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