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For over a decade I have enjoyed debating with creationists who are capable of intelligent, rational conversation. Currently I am attempting to share my viewpoints with a coworker who is particularly intelligent and rational, but who is at this point a young-Earth creationist. We take turns posing questions and formulating replies, and have not once lost our cool with each other. At this point I would very much like to share with him what I learned on evolutionofdna.com some years ago while researching for a previous debate, but the site has apparently been down for some years with no sign of returning. Does anyone know a way of retrieving an archive of it, or obtaining what it once held through other channels? If so I would be deeply grateful.
(Score: 2) by cosurgi on Monday September 08 2014, @01:34PM
nah, my 7 year old daughter just told me yesterday that god may have created universe (after I told her that we don't know what caused the universe to exist). But a second later she asked what caused god to exist :) And I told her about the concept of "turtles all the way down" (under the flat disc of Earth), I suppose you know this one.
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(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Monday September 08 2014, @04:04PM
But God created Himself!
If something can self-create, why can't the universe self-create?
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Monday September 08 2014, @06:04PM
What if the Universe IS God?
I would recommend reading Joseph Cambell's works. For me it had a lot of "Whoa!, I never thought about it that way" moments.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 10 2014, @10:06AM
What the fuck does that even mean? Don't just suggest I read a book to find out, provide a brief explanation so I can decide if a book on the idea is worth my time, but on the face of it it seems nonsensical.
(Score: 2) by zsau on Friday September 12 2014, @04:03AM
The universe created God.
And then God created the Universe. Being omnipotent and omniscient, God was able to create a universe which would subsequently develop intelligent life. The intelligent life would start worshipping and believing in God, bringing God into existence a la Terry Pratchett's Small Gods. Thus, God would exist so as to have been able to create the universe in the first place.
Any questions? No? Good. All problems solved.