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Study finds 82 percent of avocado oil rancid or mixed with other oils:
Consumer demand is rising for all things avocado, including oil made from the fruit. Avocado oil is a great source of vitamins, minerals and the type of fats associated with reducing the risk of heart disease, stroke and diabetes. But according to new research from food science experts at the University of California, Davis, the vast majority of avocado oil sold in the U.S. is of poor quality, mislabeled or adulterated with other oils.
In the country's first extensive study of commercial avocado oil quality and purity, UC Davis researchers report that at least 82 percent of test samples were either stale before expiration date or mixed with other oils. In three cases, bottles labeled as "pure" or "extra virgin" avocado oil contained near 100 percent soybean oil, an oil commonly used in processed foods that's much less expensive to produce.
Journal Reference:
Hilary S. Green, Selina C. Wang. First report on quality and purity evaluations of avocado oil sold in the US [open], Food Control (DOI: 10.1016/j.foodcont.2020.107328)
Why put avocado oil in the bottle when you can use soybean oil instead and pocket the extra profit?
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @12:47PM (3 children)
https://latourangelle.com/product/avocado-oil/ [latourangelle.com]
Tastes a bit like olive oil, has a much higher smoke point.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:49PM (2 children)
If only the article were about what kind of oil you use, this post would be on topic.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:53PM (1 child)
Drown in a vat of rancid oil.
(Score: 4, Funny) by hendrikboom on Wednesday June 17 2020, @05:51PM
But for cooking, it would be "Brown in a vat of rancid oil",
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Booga1 on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:27PM (23 children)
There's a lot of fraud going around in the world of oils. There were some stories a while back about the same sort of problem with olive oils. They were being mislabeled as "extra virgin" when it wasn't, or mixed with other oils. Furthermore, low quality oil sometimes had similar issues as what we're seeing now with avocado oil where they start with rancid olives. [pri.org]
Sesame oil is another one where you have to watch out. Always check the ingredients on the label because a fair portion of them are cut with soybean oil. At least with sesame oil they tend to have proper labeling in the US and it's not that hard to find if you're paying attention.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:58PM
Rancid fish oil is unlikely to be as beneficial as fresh fish oil.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Immerman on Wednesday June 17 2020, @04:35PM (16 children)
>Always check the ingredients on the label because a fair portion of them are cut with soybean oil
Are you sure that helps? I seem to recall hearing that with olive oil in the US, something like 80% of oils were severely cut with much cheaper oils, and many contained no olive oil at all, while the ingredient list claimed 100% pure olive oil. Obvious fraud, but who's going to assemble a class-action lawsuit over a bottle of cooking oil?
(Score: 4, Informative) by MostCynical on Wednesday June 17 2020, @09:02PM (6 children)
if only you had some sort of effective regulation [foodregulation.gov.au] that could stop mis-labelling and prosecute fraud,
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @10:54PM (5 children)
That's assuming it's caught. In some cases the only issue with the product is that it's not from the region it claims to be from and in others it's a completely different product, but there's 350 tons of olive oil entering the US every year, which is an extremely large amount to try and monitor. Yes, you can conduct randomized sampling, but if the product was mislabeled by region rather than the actual characteristics of the product, that can be virtually impossible to identify as fake.
Ultimately, shy of taste testing it and demanding a refund from the retailer if it doesn't taste right, there isn't much that can be done. But, being willing to pay the proper cost of the product and then demanding that the quality match the price should help. Or, you can always try to buy from sources that are listed as less prestigious / not subject to mafia control and hope the market corrects.
(Score: 2) by drussell on Thursday June 18 2020, @02:14AM (3 children)
That can't be right....
You must be off by several orders of magnitude.
350,000 tons, or 350,000,000 tons or something, perhaps, but I guarantee it is way more than 350 tons imported every year!
That doesn't even make sense. I use at least 15-20L per year, just myself! What's the average density?
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:10AM (1 child)
Well there's your problem, it's meant for cooking, not as a hair care product.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:31AM
Romans use to use it at their famous baths for getting clean, presumably because still needed to be invented.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:32PM
Oil is less dense than water but not significantly less, about 900g per litre or so. For back of the envelope calculations just go with the usual "1 cubic metre is 1 tonne"; one pallet will be about 1 tonne and one tanker truck will hold about 50 tonnes.
Anyway the correct import figure for the United States seems to be ~350,000 tonnes/year.
This website has year over year import totals for olive oil [internationaloliveoil.org] (see section 3) which annoyingly doesn't seem to say what unit any of the numbers in their tables are but it does appear to be tonnes: I was able to find elsewhere that the US imported about $1.5 billion in olive oil in 2018 [trendeconomy.com] and the bulk commodity price of olive oil seems to be on the order of $5000/tonne, which seems to put 350,000 tonnes in the right ballpark.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:07AM
The gummint does bugger-all (Australian technical term for "very little") testing, but then consumer organisations like CHOICE [choice.com.au] pick up the slack, they regularly run tests of products showing how much, or little, they comply with the regs. One recurring one has been sunscreen, for which most stuff rated SPF50 and above isn't, so they've been re-running tests for awhile on those. Eventually if they show up bad enough problems there'll often be a law change to enforce quality requirements.
(Score: 2) by Booga1 on Wednesday June 17 2020, @09:34PM (4 children)
> >Always check the ingredients on the label because a fair portion of them are cut with soybean oil
>Are you sure that helps? I seem to recall hearing that with olive oil in the US, something like 80% of oils were severely cut with much cheaper oils, and many contained no olive oil at all, while the ingredient list claimed 100% pure olive oil. Obvious fraud, but who's going to assemble a class-action lawsuit over a bottle of cooking oil?
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Well, sesame oil isn't typically used as a cooking oil the same way olive oil is, and certainly not in the same quantities or number of recipes that use it. I did a quick scan of a recipe site and found olive oil in six times more recipes and the quantity of olive oil needed was often 3-12 times more than ones with sesame oil.
Around here I mostly see bottles labeled sesame oil which could be any blend, or pure sesame oil(or 100% pure) which only has sesame oil as an ingredient. It is usually sold in small bottles and used as a flavoring. Sesame oil has a strong flavor and toasted sesame oil has an extremely strong flavor. People may not actually want pure sesame oil which leads to an actual market for the blends. It's less something to be hiding and more about your personal taste. Of course there's always a chance some brands are doing the same thing with it, but it seems to me that there's a willingness on the consumer's part to buy the blends. Pure sesame oil doesn't command a huge price premium(partly because the bottles are so small), so there's less probably incentive to hide that.
Of course, any oil can go rancid over time so I would imagine some things in how sesame oil is handled and produced could still lead to low quality oil or oil that goes bad faster than expected. I guess we'll never know for sure unless there's another study like the ones done for olive and avocado oils.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:12AM (2 children)
Except sunflower oil, apparently. I've used that stuff five years past its expiry date without any hint of rancidness.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:50AM (1 child)
Going rancid is more about exposure to air. Put it in a well sealed container with no air space and it will last a very long time. If you still had some five years past expiry, I would suspect that you were not opening the bottle very often.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:08AM
Ah, true, dark cool cupboard, very little use since I was mostly using the olive oil next to it.
(Score: 4, Informative) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:34AM
Dark sesame oil is *wonderful* for adding flavour to things. Even uncooked things like salads.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @01:47AM (1 child)
With olive oil it's not hard to identify the quality from the taste. And that's not oil-snobbery, I used to just use whatever stuff the supermarket had in stock until a friend of mine gave me a bottle of oil his Italian wife's family made, each bottle individually numbered and dated. I've never tasted olive oil that good, it had a kind of freshly-cut grass taste. Since I can't get any more I make do with the best equivalent determined by trial and error, which oddly enough is one of the cheapest budget brands in the supermarket while the more exotic Italian ones just taste of generic "oil" vs. "fresh olives".
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:17AM
Just checked the label, it's from Tunisia:
I assume we get the real deal here rather than the adulterated "Italian" or "Spanish" oils made from a mix of cheap Tunisian oil and a few Italian olives thrown in to justify the name [washingtonpost.com].
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:55AM (1 child)
Annoyingly as long as the olive oil used in the bottle is 100% pure then that's a legal label. It says nothing about everything else in the bottle, just the olive oil. It's completely misleading and that's why so many companies use it. Awhile back there was a lawsuit about 100% fruit juice and the ruling was that since 100% of the tiny amount of juice in the drink came from fruit, the statement was factually correct and thus legal.
You read it as "100% of the juice comes from fruit", not that "the drink is 100% juice". So "100% pure olive oil" would mean "100% of the olive oil came from pure olives." Personally I don't know how you get impure olives, perhaps cross-breed them with grapes?
Never trust advertising. And apparently you can't trust ingredient lists either. Best to just buy cows from the butchers and only eat that (and you'll actually end up pretty healthy).
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:36AM
I moderated this funny because of the cross-breeding suggestion.
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Wednesday June 17 2020, @07:02PM
There's a lot of fraud going around in the world of oils.
I think it falls under the subject of serpentology
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday June 17 2020, @07:05PM (2 children)
Reminds me of the Aloe Vera scams revealed a while back.
As for olive oil made with refined rancid stuff plus a little flavoring... seems like that should get a classification that allows it to be sold with proper labeling, and that maybe it shouldn't be too much less valuable than "extra Virgin" for most people's purposes - not unlike maple syrup blends made with 90% cane sugar.
Apparently, there's a market opportunity for "boutique" Greek olive oils in the U.S. - some people (who know, and care) are willing to pay quite a premium for actual traceable olive oils coming from known growers / refiners.
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(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:39AM (1 child)
I've often wondered what maple sugar would taste like without the sweetness. Presumably the distinctiveness of the flavour comes from something other than the sugar itself.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:07PM
Early attempts at "low cost" maple syrup substitutes, IMO, focused too much on rock bottom prices (corn syrup based) and probably also on consumer focus group feedback like "can't you make it thicker? It always runs off onto the plate..."
I wouldn't mind paying cane-syrup prices for something that's indistinguishable from maple syrup - just made with other flavor source stock that doesn't cost $100 per gallon to supply at retail.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @01:33AM
There was a study that showed that the honey sold in all the major US supermarkets except for Trader Joe's was fake / blended with sugar syrup.
Since Trader Joe's bypasses a lot of the middle-men (each step is an opportunity for adulteration), and since this direct buying worked to make it so only they were selling real honey, I've been hoping the same applies to olive oil from Trader Joe's, and only buy oil from Trader Joe's.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:37PM (17 children)
In other news 82% of consumers don't care and 82% of businesses know they won't get caught cheating, so 82% of us live in this nice utopian false reality where we enjoy cheap avocado oil knowing it comes from rancid soybeans. Hey at least we have our proud heritage to make ourselves feel good.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:40PM (13 children)
Don't include me in the 82%, I'm not a hipster yuppie anymore, canola oil is good enough for me.
Since it's cheap, the stock moves fast, good chances to be actually the freshest oil on the market (I'll abstain to say the healthiest, though, too much hinges on the source of canola and the extraction process)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:48PM (7 children)
OK... now try to think laterally. Hint: it's not about the avocado oil.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:55PM (6 children)
I can't, my lateral neurons died a long time ago.
I have this hunch nobody would counterfeit the cheapest product on the market, oil or anything else.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:01PM (4 children)
> the cheapest product on the market
Our principles?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:21PM (3 children)
Those too.
World is moving fast nowadays. If fresh new ideas are two a penny, what do you expect from old, moldy and rancid principles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @05:33PM (2 children)
> If fresh new ideas are two a penny, what do you expect from old, moldy and rancid principles?
Wow, 6 threads deep and still not getting it.
The point is 82% of us cheerfully chow down the rancid shit as long as someone (preferably in orange make-up and an oversize pantomime suit) tells us it's virgin avocado oil. Nom nom nom.
Still too complicated? Approximately 82% of humans choose to follow a charismatic bully as long as they get told they're winning.
Sorry, can't go any lower than that.
(Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:26AM (1 child)
Yes, the rabbit hole you fell in is deep.
An (already old... gosh, how the time passes) essay/book-promo by The Bruce: Trust and Society [schneier.com]. You may give both a read and think what happens in a society that put other values (e.g. money) above truth/honesty. Does it sound familiar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:59AM
OK perhaps you're right, it's canola oil.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:25AM
Emerich Juettner spent about tens years counterfeiting one dollar bills [wikipedia.org]. When he was caught he said he counterfeited them so that no-one would ever lose more than a dollar. The seventy-year-old was sentenced to a year in prison and a one dollar fine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @01:35AM (1 child)
Shilling for Trader Joes's :)
Trader Joe's sells expeller pressed canola oil, so none of the nasty solvents used in the stuff sold by the major brands.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:06AM
Uh, you know canola oil is one grade above liquidized excrement right?
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:04AM (2 children)
Canola is fine for most cooking purposes. Also, you're probably gonna get real canola oil when you buy it since it's about the cheapest oil on the market. Personally, I even prefer it when making salad dressing because I like tasting the salad ingredients more than the dressing.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:19AM (1 child)
Regarding that "real": very low numbers of oils nowadays are obtained by pressing/heating alone and most of them rely on solvent extraction - it uses hexane extraction [wikipedia.org]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:10AM
And rightly so. Solvent extraction (including OMG hexane) and distillation is the way chemists produce 99.99% purity chemicals. Unless of course the terpene profile is important to you.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday June 17 2020, @08:55PM (2 children)
The problem occurs when getting stuck with the fake stuff can completely denature your attack [youtube.com].
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:43AM (1 child)
OK. What series is that from?
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday June 18 2020, @09:43PM
"Mitsuboshi Colors", and also consider "Ascendance of a Bookworm" if you want to see someone make shampoo/conditioner out of "avocado" oil.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:45PM (20 children)
If they want to get pure avocado oil, they'll have to squeeze it themselves from their avocado toast.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:01PM (2 children)
Reel Millennials would squeeze zits.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:42PM (1 child)
If they still have zits at 20 years of age, something may be wrong with their sexual life.
They should have at least a hand, don't they?
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:30AM
You've just described their sexual life.
(Score: 2) by Kitsune008 on Wednesday June 17 2020, @05:52PM (16 children)
WTF is 'avocado toast'? I'm surrounded by thousands of millennials every day, and have never heard it mentioned in numerous food related discussions.
I think you are either confused, misinformed, or both.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @06:38PM
Just another class / generational attack. Probably a bit coupled with anti-liberal sentiment, I've only seen conservatives use that "insult" unironically.
(Score: 1) by petecox on Wednesday June 17 2020, @10:51PM (2 children)
Hi from Australia, the "smashed avo" epicentre.
Conservatives with multiple tax-rorting investment properties created a meme that hipster millennials could afford a house if only they wouldn't eat brunch; avocado on toast, at cafes with their friends.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Kitsune008 on Friday June 19 2020, @03:06AM (1 child)
Hello to you, in OZ!
Got it, thanks for the explanation.
My personal view on avocados edibility is that whilst they may not be toxic or poisonous, they sure taste like it.
I would rather eat slugs. At least slugs slide right down without leaving much aftertaste, not a problem with an alcoholic chaser. :-)
(Score: 1) by petecox on Friday June 19 2020, @04:42AM
Avocado is fairly popular in Latin American cuisine, no? I remember being served it on a hotdog in Santiago, Chile.
Some decades ago, chicken and avocado focaccia was fairly common here. But this lastest hipster trend seems to just be on a slice of sourdough toast sprinkled with sea-salt and olive oil - yeah as boring as it sounds.
But if you're seeking Australian cuisine, add avocado to a Vegemite and cheese toasted sandwich! :) Yeah, I know you foreigners hate Vegemite...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @11:52PM (3 children)
Unsurprisingly, it's toast with avocado on it [gimmedelicious.com].
Funny that.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:32AM
In contrast with toast Hawaii [wikipedia.org], which is... oh the humanity!
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:47AM (1 child)
Sounds good. I usually have my avocado with rice wrapped around it, in a restaurant. I should try this sometime.
IF I ever manage to get an avocado in the state between unripe and rotten. Sometimes I think avocados can transition between states by being in both states at the same time rather then in neither state.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @02:01PM
If they are sold by weight buy the smallest ones you can. They generally have much smaller seeds, so you get proportionally more flesh. They are also less likely to get squeezed and bruised by all the dickheads checking them, which is what makes them go straight to rotten.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:11AM (6 children)
It has become the Official Explanation from certain propaganda sources for why younger people are poorer than their parents are, while conveniently leaving out any structural economic factors like the largest recession since the 1930's, degree inflation, real wage cuts, higher rents, and massively higher college tuition.
And yes, I guess it's the idea of taking avocado and putting it on toast. I've never tried it, but it sounds like it would be decently good eats.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @01:30AM (2 children)
Yes, but would you pay $18 for it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:13AM
Only if I wanted to DIE, oh my GOD!
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday June 18 2020, @07:15PM
$18 seems a bit steep, yes. I'd expect those kinds of prices in tourist traps or major cities where everything is more expensive, but not normally, and I suspect that whoever is alleging kids are pouring money into avocado toast are looking for the most expensive price they can find and pretending that it's typical rather than an outlier.
But the real point I'm after is that the people complaining about kids and their (mostly imaginary) $18 avocado toast are frequently giving their lectures in frivolous luxury spending from an $18,000-per-year golf course or an $18 million yacht, which means I'm going to assume that they should in no way be taken seriously.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:07AM (1 child)
It's good in the way that guacamole is good. It's more filling than you would think, and makes a decent breakfast on its own.
It's not worth making a thing out of it, but it's a good option to use up avocado if you ever find yourself with too many ripening at once.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:48AM
If you are getting desperate with your oversupply of avocados, you could also eat them without the toast.
(Score: 2) by Kitsune008 on Friday June 19 2020, @02:57AM
Ah, got it. So my initial reaction was not far off base.
As for avocados, you all are MORE than welcome to my share.
*shudder and gag*
I find them utterly disgusting in both taste and aroma, and would rather eat slugs...at least slugs slide downthroat easily, and without much taste compared to avocado.
And guacamole? It looks and smells as bad as anything I have observed in babies diapers, so I avoid it like the Plague.
At least with scorpions, once you pinch the stinger and poison sac off, toss them into the coals off a campfire until they sizzle and pop, they taste like dry roasted cashews.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:42AM
Incidentally, I'd like to propose Conservation of Idiocy as a new law of physics. I suspect I might be wrong, as there might be positive feedback, and infinite growth...
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:55PM (9 children)
If the use soybean oil as a knock-off of avocado oil, what do they use as a knock-off of soybean oil?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:15PM (2 children)
Chinese "soybean oil," of course.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:50PM (1 child)
Ground up internal organs of
political prisonersvolunteers perhaps?But then... what do they use as a substitute for ground up human meat?
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:03PM
While the source might be cheap, the extraction process isn't.
I'd rather bet the "Chinese soybean oil" is made from American soybeans [theconversation.com]. Oh, wait...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:47PM
Canola, I'd venture to guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @10:58PM (2 children)
Probably lower quality soybean oil or possibly filtered engine oil. I remember being warned about that by my Chinese colleagues when I was over there. But, either I was incredibly lucky, it isn't true or I run really well on engine oil because even the crappiest food I could find still made me feel better than that crap we call food in the US. There's a bunch wrong with China, but most of the time the food is fine. Especially after they executed those executives for adding melamine to the milk supply.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:09AM (1 child)
No, you weren't lucky, you were confused and actually in Taiwan.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:17AM
FTFY
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:34AM
3-in-1 general-purpose lubricating oil.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday June 18 2020, @02:04PM
It's really nasty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil [wikipedia.org]
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday June 17 2020, @01:59PM (4 children)
Not a "Solution" technically, as this is about "diluting" rather than "dissolving", more like Homeopathy.
Simply Dilute (not dissolve) the Avocado Oil in other oils, until there are approximately zero molecules of Avocado Oil remaining in a product that is advertised as Avocado Oil. Like potato chips, the package could say: contains . . . followed by long, looooooong list of whatever other oils were cheapest on that particular day of manufacture.
If you put the word Homeopathy on the container, then the false labeling of "Avocado Oil" suddenly becomes True labeling, just like labeling other "medicines" as Mercury, Strychnine, or Lead. [arstechnica.com] (although unleaded lead would probably sound good to persons inclined to purchase Homeopathy products.)
Products labeled as containing something, but not actually containing that, make very much sense, in a Trump "Ministry of Truth" deer leader sort of way.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Thexalon on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:35PM (2 children)
I always liked this James Randi bit: "Did you hear about the homeopathy patient who overdosed? They forgot to take their pill!"
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @11:00PM (1 child)
He does his cause a great disservice by being such a self-important, pompous blowhard. Why anybody with a legitimate belief that they had supernatural powers would involve themselves with him is beyond me. The money is just not sufficient to put up with his attitude.The money early on was a much bigger deal early on, but now, it's rather insulting compared with the money that's available elsewhere.
Literally, the only people more annoying than the true believers are the skeptics.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday June 20 2020, @03:05AM
I'm all for healthy skepticism, but it's always struck me as a sucker bet anyway. The guy who has to pay gets to set the criteria and judge them to decide if he has to fork over of not? No biggie for a bar bet that takes all of a minute, but the incentives are too perverse for a more significant wager.
(Score: 5, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday June 17 2020, @07:08PM
A couple of years back there was a big expose' on how WalMart's Aloe Vera Gel was 100% gel, 0% Aloe Vera. It didn't start that way, but with WalMart's supplier price reduction system, it became impossible to meet target price points without skipping the plant altogether and just leaning on a little green food dye.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:11PM (22 children)
Some douchebag brought a fancy looking bottle of avocado oil. Apparently, it costs similar to a decent olive oil.
Looked up the web. Says the flavor is comparable to olive oil.
Bullshit, it tasted like crap.
So, maybe it was one of these rancid ones?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:22PM (14 children)
What was the taste like? The article has the following notes:
* The flavor of virgin avocado oil can differ by varieties and region. In general, authentic, fresh, virgin avocado oil tastes grassy, buttery and a little bit like mushrooms.
* Virgin avocado oil should be green in color, whereas refined avocado oil is light yellow and almost clear due to pigments removed during refining.
* Even good oil becomes rancid with time. It's important to purchase a reasonable size that can be finished before the oil oxidizes. Store the oil away from light and heat. A cool, dark cabinet is a good choice, rather than next to the stove.
* How do you know if the oil is rancid? It starts to smell stale, sort of like play dough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @02:55PM (13 children)
Some of us happen to like the taste of Play-Doh (if you are going to reference it, at least spell it correctly!)
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:18PM
https://playdoh.hasbro.com/en-us/faq [hasbro.com]
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:36PM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:41PM (10 children)
When he was a kid, my brother used to eat Friskies [wikipedia.org] and will still eat lemons and limes as if they were oranges.
I think his taste buds are damaged.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:54PM (9 children)
I never ate cat food, but I love to eat lemons and limes, especially with some salt. Do you not like "spicy" food either?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @04:27PM (4 children)
AC you replied to here.
Where did you got that idea, as I didn't mention my own taste preferences, just my brother's?
Friskies (the dry stuff) is rather mealy and not very good. Try it sometime. Or actually, don't. It's nasty. Which is why I think my brother's taste buds are damaged.
I do love lemons and limes, just not straight up as a snack. But on food and in drinks it's fabulous! Lemons and limes aren't spicy at all. They are *tart*, which is much different from *spicy*.
What's more, I *love* spicy food. I put Sriracha or other hot sauce on just about everything (well, except cereal as it curdles the milk). I also adore Old Bay and other spices as well, including black pepper.
More generally, I love food with *flavor*. Sometimes I even go to extremes. I recall being in San Francisco a bunch of years ago and going to a thai restaurant with my brother and his (now ex) wife.
I ordered the "sizzling beef" and requested that they please "make it spicy." The waiter said that could be a problem, as the spices in the air could bother the diners (it was a very small restaurant, with maybe 10 or 15 tables pretty close together). I pooh-poohed him and he acquiesced.
When the food came, it was quite spicy (yum!), but the waiter was right -- people started coughing from the spices in the air, and even people who came in *after* I was served started hacking. It was the only time I ever felt compelled to go from table to table apologizing to other diners.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @04:50PM (3 children)
Most people I've meet who've found citrus-eating to be something strange also don't like spicy foods. (Eating citrus by itself is also pretty common in cultures with lots of spicy foods)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @06:14PM (2 children)
Same AC again.
That's as may be, I hadn't noticed.
That said, I do like citrus (oranges, grapefruits, tangerines, limes, lemons, etc.), I just don't care for eating limes and lemons by themselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @11:04PM (1 child)
You should try sweet lemons. My inlaws are from the Middle East and they had some a while back. It's a weird sensation, they taste like either extremely strong lemon water or extremely weak lemonaid.
https://specialtyproduce.com/produce/Persian_Sweet_Lemons_10194.php [specialtyproduce.com]
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 18 2020, @03:44AM
There's also lemonade fruit [wikipedia.org] if you're in a country where it's available - think of an orange but that tastes mildly of lemon.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:44AM (3 children)
You're missing the most important ingredient - the tequila.
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(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday June 18 2020, @11:52AM (1 child)
When they give me a lemon slice with a fish dinner, I usually eat the lemon by itself instead of squeezing it over the fish.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:32PM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @05:12PM
Different AC here.
Nope. Lime/salt with tequila is just for women and small children.
Tequila (preferably *quality* tequila [riazul.com]) on the rocks FTW!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @03:49PM (6 children)
Oh ya, what a real douchebag spending extra money on something he thought you'd enjoy. Or were you just angry it wasn't wine?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @04:08PM (5 children)
Shut up, douchebag. And don't bring no rancid oil no more.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @05:11PM
You shut up and try providing some decent food and not the leftovers you tossed in the trash a few days ago.
Your food SUCKS Chaaaad, and your "I got the drinks come party!" Busch Lite bullshit should be given a jury trial for felony assault.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2020, @11:57PM (3 children)
Yeah, Chad! You couldn't even spring for Genesee Cream Ale or Mickey's Big Mouth?
Ugh! And your girlfriend gives crap head too. Never going to one of your "parties" again!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:13AM (2 children)
That's my daughter you cocksucker pedo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @02:06AM
"cocksucker"
She is probably safe then.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2020, @04:48PM
Actually, it was she who did the (incompetent -- you didn't train her very well) sucking, and the term is Ephebophile [wikipedia.org], not pedo.
Regardless, I'm still not going to any more of your parties.