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When you want to express your complete rage at the incompetence of leadership over text, in a way that says "I would like to see their heads removed at the neck with a large falling blade and rolled into little baskets" but less literal and more succinct, an emoji would help a lot.
Sadly, there is no guillotine emoji, despite "guillotine them" being the ruling sentiment of the pissed-off proletariat for the last... well, probably many years, but more lately, as tens of thousands of people have taken to the streets in protests around the world.
Lisbon-based artist Carrozo is lobbying the Unicode Consortium to include a guillotine in its next emoji update, and has sent an application outlining why the people need the 18th century execution machine in their emoji lexicon.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Booga1 on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:39AM (2 children)
Just imagine the latest hieroglyphics in messages!
Lorena Bobbit: Eggplant guillotine
Budget negotiations: $ guillotine pig
Star Wars: swords guillotine hand
Protest news in France: French flag guillotine clock
I'm sure others will come up with more creative uses than I can.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:56PM
The Linux world needs a goatse emoji for when MS has another security issue.
(Score: 3, Funny) by fyngyrz on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:47PM
For annoying leaders (and others), a usable substitute is 🦇💩
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Diapers and Politicians should be changed often.
Both for the same reason.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:41AM (13 children)
Unlike the guillotine it can only fall on the guilty
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by PinkyGigglebrain on Tuesday July 21 2020, @07:36AM (12 children)
Ummmm, what?
are we talking about the same Sword of Damocles [wikipedia.org] that everyone thinks of when they hear that phrase or is there another one?
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 4, Touché) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:49PM (11 children)
(Score: 3, Interesting) by tangomargarine on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:29PM (10 children)
Is there more to the story than this? Because it doesn't sound like it fell on anybody, and there's nothing about the guilt or innocence of those involved.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:48PM (9 children)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:19PM (8 children)
Fustakrakich is presenting death from those dangers as judgements and claiming they are always correctly applied.
No, unfortunately they often miss, but the authoritarians must accept the risk, whether it is "just" or not. We must put an extremely steep price on power. It might reduce the desire. Then we'll have to conscript people to serve in the senate. They'll be more likely to tread lightly on the heathens begging at their feet
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:30PM (5 children)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:47PM (4 children)
Exactly the opposite. Those in power are the most at risk, as designed. Make the job so fearsome that nobody wants it. You know, like hang the sword over his balls
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @01:13AM (3 children)
And with outsized rewards due to the limited competition for the job.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @01:18AM (2 children)
They still have to win the election, and they still have to perform satisfactorily
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @04:44AM (1 child)
Both which will come easier to manage as control over society is increased due to the lack of competitors. I'm pretty sure you haven't thought this through even a little.
One of the points of a democratic society is that it's easier and safer (rather opposite to your proposal) than ever for someone to become a leader - they just need to get votes. It's the competition for the position that enables relatively good leaders who reflect the wishes of the voters.
Put too many bogus conditions on leadership, then you will filter out all but the people with the worst ulterior motives. It's a filter for the very problems you claim to be trying to avoid.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @05:57AM
You're just covering for your peeps again, brother.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday July 22 2020, @03:52PM (1 child)
"Whoever wants power must under no circumstances be allowed to wield it"
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @05:12PM
Absolutely, that why we should make the legislature, and the prez, and the judges more like jury duty. In and out, nobody gets hurt
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:45AM (14 children)
Emoji should not exist. They are not glyphs in any real written language. The Unicode Consortium has betrayed its purpose by including emoji in Unicode.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:04AM
They are glyphs in Unicode. I suppose that real language isn't a written language in a technical sense.
As to betraying its purpose, that's been the MO of many such organizations for a long time.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bart9h on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:14AM (7 children)
What about Japanese, Chinese, and other written languages where the symbols are pretty much like drawings?
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:21AM (6 children)
They may be "pretty much like drawings", but they are in fact writing glyphs in a real written language. Emoji are not.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:31AM (4 children)
Not... yet. 😎
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:34AM (3 children)
Yeah, I know. 💩
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:57AM (2 children)
They certainly fulfill the purpose of a language, which is to convey ideas and information.
But I seriously doubt that a guillotine will be added, given they are already walking back from the gun emoji.
Gotta love that the left are now into making death threats too. I thought that was something that they didn't like about the right?
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:12AM
You must have missed the asterisk. Whenever the left says "you shouldn't do such a thing," there's always a footnote saying "We should be doing it instead."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @07:59PM
Democrats aren't left. Leftist anarchists and nihilists were all about assassination and terrorism.
(Score: 2) by bart9h on Wednesday July 22 2020, @12:07PM
Actually, there are a lot of glyphs in Japanase that are actually drawings, like "people", "tree", "forest", and a lot more.
(Score: 5, Funny) by istartedi on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:58AM (3 children)
On the one hand, as an old fart who isn't in on the indecipherable trains of images that gen-Z uses to communicate sometimes, I despise them.
On the other hand, if they weren't standardized then we'd probably have Google emoji, Apple emoji, Mozilla emoji, Microsoft Active Emoji that are being used to run unauthorized code as admin, and the interminable wait for "the year of emoji on the Linux desktop".
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:25PM (2 children)
I see what you typed there. What generation shall exist after gen-Z?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @08:01PM
Gen2. We'll all be ricing our babies in the lab.
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Tuesday July 21 2020, @10:08PM
Gen AA, the "not included" generation.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @07:50AM
Unicode "just" has a place for those. What's so bad about it other than working interoperability? You don't *have* to make/install fonts that show anything there. I don't use most of Unicode characters, doesn't mean it's not useful to have them there. You, English-worlders, were fine with ASCII, I remember. Interoperability for everyone else was a pain in the ass.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:11AM (4 children)
The people do deserve this emoji.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:08AM (3 children)
Web 2.0 made everybody a radicalized lynchmob. It's about time we got an update to 2.0.1.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:23AM (1 child)
Is that the update where we all get to eat cake?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:46PM
Don't wait. Eat cake now and watch the madness unfold.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:29AM
Things are not going to get better. Just take the next exit to the dark web.
(Score: 5, Funny) by istartedi on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:53AM
Let them eat 🍰
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:16AM (1 child)
Is a Flounder in Space [fandom.com] emoji with an embedded audio link to this bit [youtube.com].
👋
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @09:19AM
Damn it, that scene is exactly what I thought of when I saw the headline. The world needs a "head on pike" emoji.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday July 21 2020, @09:50AM
You don't need an approved picture by some funky committee to write an emoji.
Here, see?
:guillotine:
Be creative.
Respect Authorities. Know your social status. Woke responsibly.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Opportunist on Tuesday July 21 2020, @10:57AM (3 children)
Actually, the message is "people using emojis deserve a guillotine".
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:59AM
(⌐■_■) ︻╦╤─ (╥﹏╥)
http://asciimoji.com/ [asciimoji.com]
Respect Authorities. Know your social status. Woke responsibly.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:03PM (1 child)
Yeah but after you 😁🌀🤪 and their IQ remains the same, don't you think it is a lot of cleaning up for nothing? You meatbags are leaky.
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(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:39PM
You have to factor in the entertainment value. Like the late George Carlin said, have the head roll down a small ramp and land in one of different numbered pots, and have the spectators bet on where it lands.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:42PM (10 children)
This is actual hate speech.
If you want to say why you want to kill someone, you can write it out. We sure as hell don't need a lazy one character shortcut to encourage people to express this.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Aegis on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:41PM (6 children)
No it's not. It may be unwise, or used to make threat, or used while committing hate speech. But, a picture of a murder device by itself is not hate speech unless you are using it to threaten a group of people.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:56PM
Did you read the summary or the article for the justification used by the promoter of this emoji?
I don't think we need to add another shitmoji for the purpose of having a new one character equivalent of a mob-inciting hashtag.
This is not a neutral emoji that we've all been needing to discuss our daily chores of home guillotine maintenance. Perhaps you would like for the Unicode consortium to add a new bloody severed head emoji with a knife on the neck? It's just a picture. Maybe it could serve as a localized equivalent of the guillotine for Muslim countries. Surely we all could use this.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:31PM
Unless it gets on a such a list which until recently was called a blacklist.
It doesn't matter what you intended to say or whether it is logically correct; if it can be used by some groups or individuals to gain power over you and/or groups you are a member of, you will be "wrong" and suffer the consequences.
(Score: 2) by DeVilla on Wednesday July 22 2020, @05:15AM (3 children)
The reasoning that cause pictures of firearms to be be effectively removed as an emoji would apply here. Not specifically agreeing with or arguing against the precedent, but a guillotine is no less of a murder device than a rifle.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Booga1 on Thursday July 23 2020, @06:25AM (2 children)
Technically true, but the comparison is incomplete.
A rifle can be used for ostensibly positive things like sustenance hunting, target shooting, and home defense. It can also be used for comparably negative things like trophy hunting, vandalism, and murder.
However, the guillotine has a singular purpose, removing heads from shoulders. The guillotine is clearly more of a murder device than a rifle.
(Score: 2) by DeVilla on Thursday July 23 2020, @03:12PM (1 child)
Right. I guess I was trying to say that if a rifle pictogram needs to be removed from unicode, I'm not sure how to justify adding a guillotine. But I'm not a fan of formalized emoticons anyhow.
(Score: 2) by Booga1 on Thursday July 23 2020, @04:29PM
Personally, I think the formalized icons are a waste of time and effort. The symbols mean different things to different people and they often make communication less clear. On top of that, I don't see why they need to remove symbols either. People will say what they're going to say. Simply dropping symbols doesn't stop anyone from threatening someone, no matter whether they use a guillotine icon or something else.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @05:25PM
Actual hate speech, also known as speech.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:41PM (1 child)
So you think posting :orange: and :guillotine: would become illegal in the US?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:21PM
> So you think posting :orange: and :guillotine: would become illegal in the US?
You might already be on a list.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:40PM (1 child)
Just as the same cabal with phrygian hats who engineered the French revolution are driving the economy into the ground and organizing mobs, the symbol for the guillotine is proposed. I bet a pizza it will be approved quickly.
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:38PM
Look for it to hit twitter soon. Only for use by the blue checkmarks and only against the non woke. In the UK, sending one to the wrong person will lead to a visit from the police.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @07:38PM
the Unicode Consortium replied "let them eat cake!"
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:06PM
The guillotine was in use for a long time before the French made them famous.
I saw this beauty [nms.ac.uk] at the Scottish National Museum when I visited.
Typical Scots:
Really getting their money's worth.
There are other old ones too: The Halifax Gibbet [atlasobscura.com]was never sharpened, which seems a bit harsh.