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posted by chromas on Thursday July 23 2020, @10:33PM   Printer-friendly

Tesla picks Austin for its next US factory to build Cybertruck, Semi truck, Model Y:

Tesla has picked a site near Austin for its next U.S. factory, a 4- to 5-million square foot $1.1 billion plant that will assemble the automaker's futuristic Cybertruck, the Tesla Semi and the Model Y and Model 3 for sales to customers on the East Coast.

[...] Tesla CEO Elon Musk described the future factory as an "ecological paradise," with a boardwalk and bike lanes and where the public will be welcome. While tours have been offered at Tesla's Fremont, Calif., the campus is not open for the public to wander its grounds.

[...] Tesla has promised Texas officials it will employ at least 5,000 people. About 25 of those workers are categorized as "qualifying" jobs and would be paid a minimum of $74,050, while the remaining would be middle income jobs with an annual salary of $47,147.

[...] Under terms of the agreement with Travis County, Tesla must invest $1.1 billion in the new factory within the first five years. In exchange, Travis County will rebate 70% of the property taxes Tesla will pay. Once Tesla's investment in the factory eclipses that $1.1 billion mark, the property taxes rebates will increase to 75%. Any investments in the factory beyond $2 billion, will give Tesla 80% in property tax rebates.

[...] If Tesla fails to hit the investment goal or if its falls 75% short of its jobs requirement in any year, the company won't receive any property tax relief. The county will also have the ability to recoup tax rebates if Tesla breaches its contract.

Together, Tesla will receive at least $61 million in property tax abatement. It's possible that Tesla could receive more from the state.


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  • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Thursday July 23 2020, @10:47PM (5 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Thursday July 23 2020, @10:47PM (#1025572) Journal

    Texas loves pickup trucks. And Austin may be the most liberal city in Texas. Seems a good location to build those cybertrucks.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:08PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:08PM (#1025579) Journal

      And Austin may be the most liberal city in Texas.

      If there is a more liberal and/or progressive place in Texas, it's probably a suburb nearby to Austin.

    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:19PM (1 child)

      by looorg (578) on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:19PM (#1025586)

      Now if it only comes a with a gunrack for your lazer-rifle i'm sure it will fit right in.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday July 24 2020, @03:35PM

        by Freeman (732) on Friday July 24 2020, @03:35PM (#1025812) Journal

        Who cares about a pickup truck. Daddy wants him a laser rifle. Would just need to figure out how to skin it, so it looks like 'ye olde X-COM Laser Rifle. Are there different options as well? Laser Pistol, Gatling Laser, and Heavy Laser options, would be sweet.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @01:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @01:10AM (#1025627)

      The "most liberal" part might make it the most problematic. Probably gets burned down before one even rolls off the line or the workers get locked down because of covid unless Musk can successfully claim the work site is a protest/riot zone, in which case they'll be allowed to show up.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @06:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @06:39PM (#1025885)

      Especially when they are intended for the east coast market.

  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:17PM (1 child)

    by looorg (578) on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:17PM (#1025584)

    Is there a worker discount? Since one of the Cybertrucks (I already hate the name) will cost about what one of the middle income workers makes in a year. Any number on how many Cybertrucks they'll make in a year? Better be a lot of them, which there no doubt will be. I guess they'll be just flying of the production line.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:58AM (#1025668)

      My info says yes there is an employee discount that can be applied to the purchase of one truck.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:53PM (3 children)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday July 23 2020, @11:53PM (#1025593) Journal

    Tesla Valuation “Overheated” Believes BofA As Scandalous China Delivery Claims Emerge [wccftech.com]

    As we head to Tesla's earnings, investment banks and research firms have started to weigh in on the company's extraordinary stock market performance. Yesterday, investment bank JMP Securities stated its opinion that all immediate term growth in the company has already been discounted in its stock price and research firm Wedbush estimated that Tesla stands to deliver 450,000 vehicles during the course of this year - which is just 50,000 vehicles short of the company's own delivery estimate set before the pandemic-induced global economic disruption.

    [...] The BofA note comes a day after some reports in the Chinese press threw doubt into Tesla's recent delivery increases in the East Asian country. A research note by analyst Gordon Johnson states his belief that Tesla offered steep discounts on its vehicles to entice dealers into purchasing them, and he further believes that these dealers are now offloading their stock on the online platform Pinduoduo.

    The analyst also believes that Tesla's near term demand in China is not as healthy as some would like to believe, and as a result, the company is set to experience higher gross margins. Demand outlook in China, gross margins, profitability and delivery estimates will be among the key items on investor, analyst and press agenda as we head into Tesla's earnings report later in the day today.

    Tesla Consecutively Beats Analyst Estimates In Second Quarter Earnings [wccftech.com]

    "We have the capacity installed to exceed 500,000 vehicle deliveries this year, despite recent production interruptions. While achieving this goal has become more difficult, delivering half a million vehicles in 2020 remains our target."

    Coronavirus and tit-for-tat [businessinsider.com] diplomacy [archive.is] with China may not be kind to Tesla.

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    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday July 24 2020, @12:37AM (2 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday July 24 2020, @12:37AM (#1025611) Homepage

      Fuck Tesla then. Toyota used to be a company liked by all here, even resentfully respected by their critics, until we started seeing the Prius mentality on the highways. I saw a Tesla at the beach the other day. I noticed how it was driving so slowly that people were cutting and cutting in front of it such that the line behind it wasn't shrinking. Then I remembered that these chickenshit lazyfag vehicles can now "drive" themselves, so I cut in front of it and quickly got on my merry way.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday July 24 2020, @12:56AM

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday July 24 2020, @12:56AM (#1025622) Journal

        That level of self-driving will be in all new cars within a decade. Mostly used on the highway.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:36PM (#1025923)

        If I drove slower than traffic, I'd get a ticket for impeding traffic.

  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday July 24 2020, @03:38AM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 24 2020, @03:38AM (#1025655) Homepage Journal

    Keep Austin Weird!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by istartedi on Friday July 24 2020, @03:43AM (6 children)

    by istartedi (123) on Friday July 24 2020, @03:43AM (#1025656) Journal

    Yeah, cool new tech and all, but I hate these deals. What could we do at the Federal level, if anything, to prevent local governments from competing over corporate interests? All the companies know they can do it, so we get a race to the bottom that erodes local tax bases nationwide and magnifies the big vs. little problem. Why does Tesla pay a lower tax rate than some small software company working out of a loft space in the same city? Because they're big enough to dangle carrots in front of the whole city. It's patently unfair.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Muad'Dave on Friday July 24 2020, @11:30AM (3 children)

      by Muad'Dave (1413) on Friday July 24 2020, @11:30AM (#1025721)

      It may be unfair in your (liberal) mind, but it makes economic sense for the citizens of Austin.

      Does you loft dweller dump a minimum of 236.4 million dollars a year into the local economy via employee salaries? Does your loft dweller pay millions for power, water, etc?

      I didn't think so.

      Plus, if Tesla's goals aren't reached, Austin can collect the back taxes.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by istartedi on Friday July 24 2020, @03:47PM (1 child)

        by istartedi (123) on Friday July 24 2020, @03:47PM (#1025815) Journal

        I'm not particularly liberal (that's leftist for the rest of the world); you'd have to really know me to understand my PoV. I don't like corruption, regardless of the color of the party.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @04:14PM (#1025822)

          Most of tesla is built upon that sort of deal. I think he went hunting for a new deal when the existing deal holder decided to be a jerk.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @10:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @10:12PM (#1025980)

        Does it? If that's genuinely the case, then Tesla fucked up pretty badly. These deals virtually always wind up with the local taxpayers being screwed to pay for the corporations that then leave the moment there's a better deal someplace else.

        Really, cities need to stop competing to host these kinds of enterprises. It's one thing to give them things that you should already be doing for the local taxpayers, but they tend to want various subsidies and the like that fuck over the local taxpayers. Just look at what Foxconn got from Wisconsin and they got virtually none of the promised jobs.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Friday July 24 2020, @02:57PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday July 24 2020, @02:57PM (#1025797) Journal

      Large companies like Tesla bring a lot of positive externalities to a city, so it makes economic sense for municipalities to entice them. Tesla, in particular, is a unicorn in America these days, a manufacturing company that is growing and making money and which enjoys cachet. Austin, for its part, probably feels a keen need at the moment to diversify its economy away from total dependence on SXSW, suppressed because of concerns about the Chinese virus.

      You are quite correct that economic policy and incentives are skewed. Heaping benefits on large players does not help startups and entrepreneurs innovate and develop a dynamic company. That hurts everyone and has produced a sort of neo-feudalism.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @10:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @10:14PM (#1025981)

        Do they? How is this any different from having Amazon? Sure, there's cachet, but they do their best to suck the locality dry at every turn.

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