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posted by martyb on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the elections-are-coming-up-soon-vs-PGP dept.

Bill Aimed at Ending 'Warrant-Proof' Encryption Introduced in House:

Referred to as the Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act, the bill aims to put a stop to criminals using “warrant-proof encryption and other technological advances” to hide their activity from authorities, Congresswoman Ann Wagner (R-MO), who introduced the bill, said.

“It is time tech companies stand with criminal investigators and the public to make clear they are committed to rooting out perpetrators who use their services to commit horrific crimes. As the digital world advances, so must our legislative solutions to investigate crimes that hit hardest the most vulnerable in our society,” Rep. Wagner commented.

Law enforcement agencies have long argued that strong encryption hinders their ability to conduct successful investigations in certain cases, often asking for backdoors that would provide them fast access to data of interest, but tech companies have opposed these requests, arguing that backdoors would introduce serious security and privacy risks.

The legislation would require tech companies to provide authorities with access to encrypted user data, while also stating that the Attorney General would report on which companies can comply. Furthermore, the government would offer compensation to companies that comply with the legislation.

Previously:
(2020-07-07) US Senate Panel OK's EARN IT Act
(2020-06-27) Senators Introduce "Balanced" Bill That Aims to End Warrant-Proof Encryption
(2020-06-11) Plundering of Crypto Keys From Ultrasecure SGX Sends Intel Scrambling Again
(2020-06-06) Zoom Says Free Users Won't Get End-to-End Encryption so FBI and Police Can Access Calls
(2020-05-19) AG Barr Seeks 'Legislative Solution' to Make Companies Unlock Phones
(2020-05-19) FBI Successfully Broke Into a Gunman's iPhone, but Still Very Angry at Apple


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:26AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:26AM (#1029711)

    More of the usual cries from legislators that companies make things that criminals use.

    It is time for house locks to be all electronic so cops can get into any house or apartment they want^Wneed.
    It is time for car companies to stop making getaway cars that go so fast.
    It is time for paint manufacturers to only sell washable paint to deter graffiti.
    It is time for clothing companies to put IR and UV visible serial numbers on all clothes so everyone can be identified.
    It is time for shoe companies to make shoes that fall apart by implementing suspect interdiction technology.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Tokolosh on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:18PM (2 children)

      by Tokolosh (585) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:18PM (#1029853)

      The government has previously banned the export of encryption technology, on the basis of arms control. I thereby assert my right to encryption under the 2nd Amendment.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by istartedi on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:00PM (1 child)

        by istartedi (123) on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:00PM (#1029894) Journal

        I like the cut of your jib. Back in the late 90s, when the little form popped up that asked for your name and location I'd always put in "Hafez the Enforcer" from "Baghdad, AL" because Baghdad, Iraq wasn't available on the form. I always got my 128-bit encryption, no problem. It was my little protest against the insanity of trying to ban "export" of something that could be "shipped" overseas as soon as ONE GUY downloaded it off the Internet. While the FBI was doing this stupidity, the real terrorists were busy getting IDs from the Virginia DMV, and teaching themselves how to fly... but not how to land. :(.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:43PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:43PM (#1029929)

          Is still landing!

          It's the intent to land that matters! :)

  • (Score: 2) by SemperOSS on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:27AM

    by SemperOSS (5072) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:27AM (#1029712)

    The title says it all


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by MostCynical on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:29AM (3 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:29AM (#1029714) Journal

    Naughty mathematics! [howtogeek.com]

    besides, mathematical laws don't over rule national laws [eff.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:26PM (#1029823)

      https://wagner.house.gov/ [house.gov]

      Odds are that she changed her name, used to be Karen Wagner...
      ...just say'n.

    • (Score: 2) by choose another one on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:52PM (1 child)

      by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:52PM (#1029889)

      You don't need mathematics (really - although it helps in cracking or proving difficulty of cracking).

      A one time pad (x2, obviously) will do, or a book cipher.

      Tricky bit is, as always, the secret key exchange. It's not warrant-proof in that they can come take all your books or search for the OTP, but they need to do a physical search, much more work than a data trawl.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:52PM (#1029909)

        Both OTP and book cipher are mathematical in nature, so no, they can't exist without math. Even the ancient Cesarean Cypher is pure math.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:38AM (21 children)

    by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:38AM (#1029717)

    Any backdoor has a key. And a key that is a master key to every secret in your country is a valuable commodity. Even if it doesn't unlock your government secrets, it does at the very least unlock the trade secrets of every corporation in your country. I think I'm not the only one who could see this being valuable to the likes of North Korea or Iran.

    And do you think they are above writing a letter akin to "Dear (insert government agent name here). We happen to know that you have access to the government backdoor key. Here is a picture of your lovely wife and kids, currently residing in an undisclosed basement nearby..."

    How long do you think your government-only backdoor is for YOUR government only? And how long do you think 'til every corporation that doesn't want to outsource their R&D to Iran, China or NKor flees your country?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Booga1 on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:35AM (13 children)

      by Booga1 (6333) on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:35AM (#1029731)

      How long do you think your government-only backdoor is for YOUR government only?

      Not long, and it won't even be due to kidnapping or blackmail.
      We've seen how well "accessible encryption" has been done many times over the years by companies with billions of dollars to invest in it. Look at how many times Apple, Sony, Microsoft, and others have failed to keep stuff completely secured. Nothing they can come up with today will last the test of time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:09PM (#1029811)

        Yep. Some teenager or college student will break anything they put up in a day or two for the lulz, while the rest of us are facepalming and trying to find somewhere sane to live.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:49PM (11 children)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:49PM (#1029861) Journal

        Well, that's not guaranteed. Many encryptions have remained unbroken. But if large number of people have access to the keys, SOMEBODY will leak them for SOME reason. Stupidity is a big winner here, but bribery is a close second. Various threats are in a distant 3rd place.

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        • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:55PM (10 children)

          by loonycyborg (6905) on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:55PM (#1029943)

          Nonetheless any encryption can be bruteforced. A government competent in information issues would be expected to have access to enormous computing power, supercomputers and the like. So all this bullshit whining about warrant-proof encryption and government specific backdoors are based on pure ignorance. If access to a safe is blocked by lock with no key then government can use explosives/heavy machinery to eliminate it. So it's pointless for government to want global master key to all locks. Likewise any encryption can be bruteforced by government if they got access to supercomputers and skilled cryptography specialists.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:18PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:18PM (#1029957)

            Fair point regarding access without back doors. I think the FBI has complained at least three times now that they couldn't get into a phone. Of course, later they were able to get into it anyway and it was all a power play to push for something along the lines of what we're seeing here.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:27PM

              by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:27PM (#1029962) Journal

              As far as I know, they got in because of exploits in iPhones/iOS and Android. It's also possible to get into an iCloud account even if the iPhone itself is locked. At some point, will Apple or some other company just start selling a phone that protects encrypted contents with 100% effectiveness? iPhone 5c is compromised, but maybe iPhone 12/13/14/15/16... won't be nearly as easy to access.

              loonycyborg Encryption should still be very secure in many cases. Maybe NSA cryptographers manage to weaken an algorithm a bit, or use supercomputers to brute force weaker RSA, etc., but it could require quantum computers to completely break some forms of encryption.

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          • (Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:22PM (1 child)

            by Fnord666 (652) on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:22PM (#1030001) Homepage

            Nonetheless any encryption can be bruteforced. A government competent in information issues would be expected to have access to enormous computing power, supercomputers and the like. So all this bullshit whining about warrant-proof encryption and government specific backdoors are based on pure ignorance. If access to a safe is blocked by lock with no key then government can use explosives/heavy machinery to eliminate it. So it's pointless for government to want global master key to all locks. Likewise any encryption can be bruteforced by government if they got access to supercomputers and skilled cryptography specialists.

            You underestimate the power of exponentiation.

            • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @08:03AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @08:03AM (#1030199)

              OhdidI?

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:26PM (5 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:26PM (#1030237) Journal

            Nonetheless any encryption can be bruteforced.

            Like one time pads? And we probably already know encryption methods that can't be brute-forced even with the known universe converted into a computer, classic, quantum, or otherwise.

            • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:06PM (3 children)

              by loonycyborg (6905) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:06PM (#1030284)

              When did you last time use actual one time pad? All hard to break encryption schemes are also pain in the ass to use. And people who really want to use them wouldn't care about what companies are mandated by law to offer. They will use own stuff. You cannot outlaw mathematical algorithms.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday August 03 2020, @01:23PM (2 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 03 2020, @01:23PM (#1030711) Journal

                When did you last time use actual one time pad?

                Never, but that's irrelevant. You made a claim. I provided a counterexample.

                All hard to break encryption schemes are also pain in the ass to use.

                Pain in the ass for who? Software would do that hard to break, pain in the ass encryption, not me. At worst, maybe one has to memorize a long password or carry around a dongle.

                • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Monday August 03 2020, @03:47PM (1 child)

                  by loonycyborg (6905) on Monday August 03 2020, @03:47PM (#1030762)

                  "Memorize long password" and "carry around a dongle" is something what most people won't actually do. Generic consumer solutions by definition would strive to make things convenient instead at expense of introducing enough weaknesses that it won't be a problem for government to penetrate systems. In case of tech-savvy criminals they will eventually acquire a solution without backdoors, doesn't matter what laws are in effect.

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday August 03 2020, @10:40PM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 03 2020, @10:40PM (#1030967) Journal

                    Generic consumer solutions by definition would strive to make things convenient instead at expense of introducing enough weaknesses that it won't be a problem for government to penetrate systems.

                    Like "pin and chip"? It's already happening.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:13PM

              by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:13PM (#1030286) Journal

              Oh, decrypting one-time pads is easy:

              Step 1: Decide what cleartext you want it to decrypt to.
              Step 2: Xor that cleartext with the encrypted message to get the corresponding key.
              Step 3: Demonstrate that the key indeed decrypts to that cleartext.

              SCNR

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:08PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:08PM (#1029767)

      You're assuming every government official and law enforcement officer that would have access to the key would understand information security well enough to practice it effectively and have an ironclad personal code of ethics.

      I'd bet that the key would be stolen or leaked before even 30% of major tech companies finished implementing it. Phishing, a misplaced laptop, bribes, somebody taking it home so they can intercept the webcam of some attractive person that lives in their neighborhood...

      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:21PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:21PM (#1029819)

        Not possible since only Comrade Trump will have the keys.

      • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:23PM

        by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:23PM (#1029855)

        No, I'm not. That's coming in on top of the whole kidnapping and blackmail. The whole concept is completely devoid of logic and threatens the businesses of the USA.

        Wait a minute, I'm in Europe...

        Forget what I said, this is a GREAT idea to combat terrorism and drug money laundering and ... who's the boogeyman du jour?

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:16PM

      by sjames (2882) on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:16PM (#1029816) Journal

      Beyond that, simple leaks happen all the time. The NSA leaked it's hacking tools to the world a couple years ago. Predictable, those were quickly re-purposed into several crypto-extortion trojans that have so far done billions in economic damage all over the world.

      What makes anyone think the gold key to the kingdom won't eventually leak as well? If law enforcement is entrusted with the key, how long can it be before Rosco P. Coltrane misplaces it?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tokolosh on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:14PM (1 child)

      by Tokolosh (585) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:14PM (#1029851)

      It is obvious that the government should go first, you know, to show good faith. Let the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, DoD, state and local police put their backdoor keys into escrow with the ACLU. When they do that, then only can we turn to private citizens.

      When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:24PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:24PM (#1030293) Journal

        When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

        Actually that's wrong. Nobody fears the people more than a tyrant. And a government that fears the people will make sure that the people fear the government.

        The best case is when nobody has to fear anyone. That's the point of democracy: You can get someone out of power without threatening him.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @07:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @07:06AM (#1030189)

      If criminals find the back-door, Congress will look pretty bad when the tech co. points out, "I toldja this would happen"

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:03AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:03AM (#1029721)

    the backdoor comes with a buffer overflow that allows remote access.
    so it's not just to decrypt the data stored on the device ...

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:28AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:28AM (#1029729)

      Don'tcha just hate it when someone else accesses your back door and it overflows and you can't keep it contained in the device?

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by gmby on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:58PM (1 child)

        by gmby (83) on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:58PM (#1029763)

        Opps... post to reverse the wrong mod.
        Here lets try this one: +1 Tushie

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:26PM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:26PM (#1030294) Journal

          Posting to reverse mod doesn't work here.

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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:31AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:31AM (#1029730)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:04PM (#1029739)

      Are you saying you're not a 'nutcase'?

      A personal vendetta spamming a forum with foul-mouthed tirades is not normal behavior. Seek counseling.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by lonehighway on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:59PM (3 children)

      by lonehighway (956) on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:59PM (#1029844)

      I’ll just leave this here...

      Http://godisimaginary.com

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by HiThere on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:12PM (2 children)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:12PM (#1029870) Journal

        The gods are not imaginary, but they don't have the kind of existence people think they have. They are inherited psychic structures, what Jung called archetypes, though he got a lot of the details wrong. They exist in a pre-verbal (or possibly sub-verbal) level of the mind and they are shared by people. Given mutation, different people have slightly different resident gods, but most of them are the same. They rarely intrude into consciousness, but if you understand them properly, you can benefit from addressing them...though the forms used by most prayers are not suited to good results. This is also true for most mantras, but some koans are valuable.
        One example of a useful "prayer" is:

            I bless Ra, the fierce sun shining bright,

            I bless Isis, Luna, in the night,

            I bless the air the Horus hawk,

            I bless the earth on which I walk.

        This is from R.A.Wilson. I've tried to rewrite it avoiding the Egyptian motif, but ran into trouble with scansion. The names of the gods are not significant, the best I could do was:

            I bless the fierce sun shining bright, (The sun is symbolically emblematic of consciousness)

            I bless the moon that shines at night, (The moon represents the flowing emotions)

            I bless the air, the Horus hawk, (This is the line I couldn't fix. Air is symbolically reasoning and spirit)

            I bless the earth on which I walk. (Earth represents material existence. )

        The crucial thing to notice is that the conscious self is addressing the unconscious in a friendly manner, not begging. If you befriend your gods, they will help you feel better about things, and possibly to be luckier. And just doing this a couple of times wouldn't be that helpful. I'd suggest doing it the first time you see the sun or the moon each day. This will help strengthen the connection.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:35PM (#1029879)
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:31PM (#1029902)

          I think that's a pretty sane interpretation as far as religion goes. Here's a quick attempt at a more Greco-Roman interpretation.

          Blessings to Sol, the light of day
          Blessings to Luna, fair and fey
          Blessings to Zephyr, breath of life
          Blessings to Gaia, who holds aright

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:53PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:53PM (#1029890)

      Please people, use the Spam mod on these posts. That is what it is there for.

      To the staff: you can help out here. You can mod too. Or let us put the spam mod on there even if it is at -1

      Put out the word to deal with this please

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:43PM (#1030011)

        That is actually part of this turd's goal

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:42AM (5 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:42AM (#1029734) Journal

    Warrant-sure encryption is not an encryption.

    Imagine an analogy:
    Your house has another door, called government door. Only authorities have a key to that door, just for case a crime could happen in your house, or a fire, or whatever casual mishap for which they may need to legally enter your house.

    Does this idea make you feel safe and free?

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    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:16PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:16PM (#1029770)

      As Opportunist said above, the core problem is even more fundamental. Even if you completely trust your government to only use that door under appropriate circumstances, it is guaranteed that the criminals and foreign governments get copies.

      I am wondering whether this entire debate is a case of horrific stupidity or if it's just a distracting form of political theater - if we're screaming at the government over this, then we're not screaming because 29 million Americans didn't have enough to eat for some part of last month.

      • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:49PM (1 child)

        by loonycyborg (6905) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:49PM (#1029862)

        Also government workers might decide to take advantage of it and become criminals themselves.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:01PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:01PM (#1029913)

          "become"?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:19PM (1 child)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:19PM (#1029958) Journal

      Doesn't anybody feel silly for even discussing such a thing? Let's just work around it. The law in this regard is irrelevant. If the government wants you, they will take you. Somewhere is a law that says they can.

      --
      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:32PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:32PM (#1029967)

        Even if there isn't a law, there's bound to be a judge who will say they can.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:03PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:03PM (#1029738)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:24PM (#1029744)

      "am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS"

      Wrong hole, buddy. When a dude talks obsessively about a chick's ass, he's usually masking homosexual tendencies.

      It's really okay, no one is judging that you secretly like sausage.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:27PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:27PM (#1029745)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:41PM (#1029752)

      Please consult an editor and a psychiatrist immediately, if not sooner.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:41PM (#1030074)

        It was the intent that all could post their say here, but Azuma, I think very few if us take these attacks on you seriously.

        You picked up a lunatic, not much different than I picking up a virus.

        I appreciate you being here, Azuma, and know what I am seeing is a lunatic spraying shit.

        I think I speak for most of us here.

        But even a lunatic has the right to spray shit.

        And I reserve the right to see it for the crap it is.

        And pray it will tire of this and find something better to do.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:58PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:58PM (#1029762)

    In the past, this has been judged to be pretty much impossible. (That is, no one has come up with a way to make data in the gadget both easily available to the manufacturer and not available to determined bad guys.)

    Yet, the current proposed law requires that manufacturers do this.

    Before mandating a seemingly impossible task, should Congress provide clues for at least one example method for implementing this with an examination of the resulting risks?
    This is well known to be an area with tradeoffs. Without such an example, how can one discuss the tradeoffs to understand how the cure compares to the disease?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:20PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:20PM (#1029775)

      Encryption law gets passed. It doesn't affect services like Gmail because all of the communications can already be read by Google and law enforcement can get it with a warrant. Encryption will still be used, but not end-to-end encryption.

      Peon gets caught with encrypted drive, suspected of CP, tax evasion, or whatever, and refuses to give up the password to law enforcement. Fine, hit them with a prison sentence for the encryption crime.

      That's how it will go down if these laws get passed. For many people nothing will change.

      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:39PM (5 children)

        by sjames (2882) on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:39PM (#1029833) Journal

        Then, one fine day, someone attempts to comply and the password doesn't work. Maybe the data is corrupt, maybe their memory is corrupt, but either way, they're going to jail for an "encryption crime".

        Just ask anyone who has ever worked in IT support how frequently people forget important passwords.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:38PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:38PM (#1029859)

          Court: You shouldn't have used encryption in the first place. Throw them in the hole.

          If a law gets passed and it survives the Constitutional challenges, you use encryption at your own risk.

          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:03PM (1 child)

            by sjames (2882) on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:03PM (#1029896) Journal

            If you're handling medical records, it may be illegal to NOT use encryption.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:04PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:04PM (#1029915)

              don't fret they will make an exclusion for their slaveCrypt brand encryption.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:55PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:55PM (#1029863)

          Isn't this the kind of thing which containers within containers are for? Simply use both and populate the special one with regular file and have a script to periodically change some files every time you use the hidden container.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:17AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:17AM (#1030155)

          As someone who works in IT, people never forget important passwords. The passwords just magically change from what they used to be or someone in our department changed it. That simple fact must be true since I hear it at least once a day.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:21PM (#1029777)

      They're not going to, even if they should.

      Because ultimately, regardless of what side of the aisle they're on, most politicians believe that their dictates can alter the basic laws of math.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:18PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:18PM (#1029873) Journal

      This is well known to be an area with tradeoffs.

      No, I don't believe there are any tradeoffs here.

      Amendment IV

      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      Either you are secure, or you are not secure. You can't be secure six days a week, but Gubbermint trashes your rights on Thursdays. You can't be secure 360 days out of the year, but on the week of Halloween, federal auditors get access to all your shit. You can't be secure for 30 years of your life, but when $prosecutor takes an interest in you, he walks into your life and accesses EVERYTHING. You can't be secure all of your life, but the neighbor down the street cannot be permitted that same security. All of those instances are sorry charades of security.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:31PM (#1029784)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:54PM (#1029802)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:08PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:08PM (#1029809)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:40PM (#1029881)

      Try decaf.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:08PM (1 child)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:08PM (#1029847) Journal

    Politicians can legislate that gravity is now illegal, too, but it won't mean that everyone can then fly.

    --
    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:34PM (#1029857)

      That doesn't matter. As long as it gives them a tool to punish that survives First Amendment challenges, everyone will either fall in line or risk being shut down or imprisoned.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:41PM (#1029860)

    If this ever gets a vote on the floor of the House, given who proposed it.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:58PM (3 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:58PM (#1029893) Journal

    There are too many open source solutions to worry about the damn law

    As far as the politics is concerned, our obligation is to vote these kinds of people out of office. If we fail, well, whaddya gonna do?

    --
    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:00PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:00PM (#1029912)

      The only way to 'vote out' the sleazeballs pushing this is to vote in the other sleazeballs pushing for this. Both parties are backing this garbage, the only differences are in how they phrase it and how publicly they say it.

      BSABSVTP

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:44PM

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:44PM (#1029931) Journal

        It's up to the voters to nominate better people. The ones that don't advertise are the best.

        --
        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:34PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:34PM (#1030298) Journal

        Both parties

        You know that you can vote for someone not in either of those parties?

        --
        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:43PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:43PM (#1029930) Journal

    "If you outlaw guns^W encryption, only outlaws will use guns^W encryption!"

    /me sits back and waits for the spluttering "butbutbutbutbut THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!11111ONE" rebuttals, "obvious" or otherwise

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:33PM (#1029969)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:41PM (#1030010)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:56PM (#1030018)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:23PM (#1030032)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:39PM (#1030054)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:56PM (#1030077)

    The legislation would require tech companies to provide authorities with access to encrypted user data

    Nothing is said about un-encrypting that data. Just supply it in encrypted form.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:13AM (#1030116)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:42PM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:42PM (#1030308) Journal

    “It is time tech companies stand with criminal investigators and the public to make clear they are committed to rooting out perpetrators who use their services to commit horrific crimes."#

    Like drone striking someone without trial?
    Like killing bystanders and erasing the event from history?
    Like covering for epstein for 30 years?
    Like exporting all payment and telecommunications proecessing for nation to a different country?
    Like attacking the lives of civilian dissenters with zersetzung tactics and "simple sabotage"?
    Like making a vote counting app for a primary that is fraudulent?
    Like allowing foreign agents to operate in your country?
    Like letting a terrorist attack happen so you can collect insurance and target an entire worldwide religion as criminal forever?
    Like a government demanding "total information awareness" despite the constution declaring privacy a right under natural law?
    Like saying someone who died of a motorcycle accident died of a pandemic virus?

    I am actually not sure what crimes he is talking about, seems to me the biggest crimes are all done in the open. It is not like *any* of the mass shooters used fancy encryption to plan their crimes, that I know of. Do you know of any?

    When barr said he was sad that he couldnt catch child abusers because their encryption is too strong, and *he personally* had been hard at work cryptohacking(roflmao), it was the worst acting or obvious lie I have ever seen on television hands down. Go look it up, see if he convinces you. All the tells are present, or pantomimes as christopher walken might say.

    All I know is seth rich death was not solved. BLM protestors in ferguson missouri were murdered to made look like a suicide. Last year a dozen cops in NYC killed themselves for no apparent reason, another cop in chicago did last week right after a promotion. Numerous epstein related investigators, lawyers, chefs, plastic surgeons have died mysteriously.

    To me it sure looks like a foreign power is playing strategy of tension games in the United States, not unlike Invasion USA with chuck norris. It is total chaos, people dying everywhere, no one has enough time to lift a finger to investigate.

    And surprise surprise, we still dont get the JFK documents we were promised, which breaks the law, and if we cant get the truth on a presidents death, why should we expect we will know the truth of anyone else's? And the attorney general says this is all because people have too strong encryption, so that is top priority?

    Yeah, it is bad, and will get worse before it gets better. Anyone saying Q bullshit like the swamp is being drained is so far off.

    Think about it though, what a Biden presidency would look like, he is the worst leader I have ever even seen. And himself loves kissing his grandaughter on the lips on center stage, and is the least electable person I have seen in american politics.

    This is what totalitarianism looks like in its early stages, not crimefighting, not politics, not rule of law. It is just elimination of the publics right to protect themselves and the granting of the rights of the state and various cults within it to murder whoever they want with impunity.

    Like, will this ban on encryption apply to israeli spies in the united states? Will anyone even ask dare that question? I sure bet not, they might even make the question itself illegal at this rate.

    Traitors going to traitor.

    thesesystemsarefailing.net
    decultification.org
    https://archive.is/mnrla [archive.is] (a new thing I put together called The Equation)
    (and reminder, losing these domains soon for financial reasons, so kudos for demonstrating how resigned you are to doing nothing and leaving people who do try to do something out to dry)

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