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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the mood-ring dept.

British police to trial facial recognition system that detects your mood:

A British police force is set to trial a facial recognition system that infers people's moods by analyzing CCTV footage.

Lincolnshire Police will be able to use the system to search the film for certain moods and facial expressions, the London Times reports. It will also allow cops to find people wearing hats and glasses, or carrying bags and umbrellas.

The force has got funding from the Home Office to test the tool in the market town of Gainsborough, but ethical concerns have delayed the pilot's launch.

A police spokesperson told the Times that all the footage will be deleted after 31 days. The force will also carry out a human rights and privacy assessment before the trial gets the green light.

[...] "At the same time as these technologies are being rolled out, large numbers of studies are showing that there is... no substantial evidence that people have this consistent relationship between the emotion that you are feeling and the way that your face looks," AI Now's co-founder Prof Kate Crawford told the BBC late last year.

Could it be it was thrown off because everyone had a stiff upper lip?


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by requerdanos on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:30PM (3 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:30PM (#1038427) Journal

    The force has got funding from the Home Office to test the tool... but ethical concerns have delayed the pilot's launch.

    (Emphasis mine.) That word should perhaps (in a more ideal world) be "prevented," not "delayed."

    The force will also carry out a human rights and privacy assessment before the trial gets the green light.

    I believe that this should ideally say "to see whether or not," instead of simply "before."

    The idea seems to be that the facial recognition application will go forward no matter what the ethical concerns, no matter the effects on human rights and privacy. In such an environment, does it matter what the ethical concerns and effects on rights and privacy are? If so, why the drive to continue no matter what? If not, then why bother looking into it (other than to partially appease the reasonable)?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:31PM (#1038492)

      They know that ethics can diminish, with enough exposure, people will get used to most things.

      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by ledow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:57AM (1 child)

        by ledow (5567) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:57AM (#1038775) Homepage

        To be honest, there's no way that any facial recognition system is any good anyway. Especially if you're using it to judge "mood" or being masks and glasses.

        This stuff is literally pointless. More arrests happen on random sampling that do via face rec at public events. It's literally people who happened to have something in their pocket they shouldn't have, not "Hey, look, we found Lord Lucan hiding among the crowds at Glastonbury!".

        The trials of all kinds of systems, for all kinds of UK police forces, have basically determined that it's no better at recognition than random chance, and far inferior to an informed local copper looking at a camera or - even better - people coming into a venue.

        If it wasn't for the fact that I expect all kinds of feature creep (like this "mood" detection rubbish), and that it's an enormous waste of money, I'd literally say let them have it. It just does nothing.

        The best facial recognition in the world cannot tell that I am me, when I stand two feet from a 4K camera aimed directly and solely at my face, at Stansted e-Passport terminals, present my official document with a computer-readable image of myself, stand stock-still for several minutes following all instructions of both computer and humans, who then spend 5 minutes fussing over it and asking me to do different things before then directing me to the human passport desks anyway. Who wave me through because I look exactly like my passport and nothing has ever flagged for me.

        And that's been happening for YEARS. I think it allowed me through once, in nearly - what? 10 years of having that system. I've been walked to the human desks for at least 5 of those years because I gave up on it, but the staff get stroppy if you do that and have an e-Passport, so I am often forced through the e-passport channels only to then spend 10 minutes faffing about before they let me go back to the human channels again.

        This stuff just simply does not work. Or we'd have known who the people who commit terrorists acts were without ever having to follow them on camera. You'd just type in John Smith and it would give you their full history of their journey. In actual fact, what happens is we manually watch camera-months of CCTV, work out that they tagged their Oyster card on a Tube station entrance, then trace the credit card that topped up that card, then we might know who they were / were working for.

        As a UK taxpayer, I do not like my money wasted like this, by police or immigration/customs.

        As an IT guy, programmer, with an interest in proper AI, I know this stuff cannot and will not work reliably enough with anything currently called "AI" or anything borne from that.

        As a UK citizen, I have no fear of the system whatsoever, because of the above, except possibly being flagged as a terrorist when I'm not, but we can resolve that if it ever happens and I can prove my identity in a trice.

        As a privacy advocate, I think this is a pointless waste of money first and foremost, but think that we just shouldn't be using such flaky systems that could pay for several hundred real coppers. What will happen is that all the trials will continue to fail miserably until we realise they're useless, they'll quietly die (nobody will publicly admit to wasting millions on a system that doesn't work) and then we'll say we're doing that because we don't want to hurt people's privacy when really it's nothing to do with that.

        Hell, I can't even log into my own phone or laptop with facial recognition with any certainty (and certainly don't trust that nobody could pretend to be me and log into them), and that's got precisely ONE face to match against. When you have a million images and you're trying to match them against a database of a million people of interest, that software will have a hissy-fit and generate so many false-negatives and false-positives that nobody will bother to do anything with the information. Which is exactly what happens on the trials.

        • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:10PM

          by bzipitidoo (4388) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:10PM (#1038867) Journal

          For decades now, law enforcement has been wanting facial recognition. Badly. They want it so much that they are entirely too credulous in accepting assurances that we have it now, or that some group can do it.

          An additional underappreciated difficulty is scaling. If you have a system that can reliably identify one person among 100, it's likely to falter when faced with a million. Even with 99.9% reliability, that's still 1000 false positives out of that database of 1 million.

          I also wonder if we're too proud of our individualism. Maybe, the distinctiveness of faces is less than we fondly like to think.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:30PM (30 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:30PM (#1038428) Journal

    Happiness is mandatory! ...Christ, is this ever Orwellian.

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:33PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:33PM (#1038430)

      Careful, excessive smiling could be indicative of extremism.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:16PM (#1038468)

        Ignorance is bliss.

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:51PM

          by Freeman (732) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:51PM (#1038887) Journal

          That's the exact line the traitor in "The Matrix" used to justify his traitorous actions. Ignorance is sad / may induce sympathy, willful ignorance is sad as well, but does not induce sympathy.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by requerdanos on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:36PM (1 child)

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:36PM (#1038433) Journal

      Happiness is mandatory!

      The article doesn't say, and I am not sure I want to know, how historically having displayed a facial expression indicating to the software to be anger, contempt, disgust, fear, or sadness (for example) is any sort of police issue. What's the charge?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by SomeGuy on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:40PM

        by SomeGuy (5632) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:40PM (#1038479)

        What's the charge?

        At least 100,000 volts.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:37PM (1 child)

      by acid andy (1683) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:37PM (#1038434) Homepage Journal

      Yeah but most of the population still won't change their vote.

      --
      If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PinkyGigglebrain on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:07PM

        by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:07PM (#1038510)

        eah but most of the population still won't change their vote.

        If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal. -Emma Goldman

        --
        "Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by acid andy on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:46PM (1 child)

      by acid andy (1683) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:46PM (#1038440) Homepage Journal

      I mentioned voting like that would have some effect. If this kind of thing is the agenda now I suspect elections will become even more impotent and meaningless than they already were. I mean, once you have mind control, where's the democracy?

      --
      If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:09PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:09PM (#1038448) Journal

        If you aren't found to be happy after the election result got announced, you're clearly suspicious.

        --
        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:08PM (11 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:08PM (#1038447) Homepage Journal

      That's the low hanging fruit though. What I'm curious about is how does it deal with Resting Bitch Face and whatever the male equivalent is called.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:12PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:12PM (#1038465)

        How delightfully fucking racist of them that would be. What they call RBF is basically the normal expression you are supposed to have in public in Slavic countries. I love how the ignorant and racist media loves to pile on Melania Trump for what she was brought up to do, and is totally in line with customs of her homeland.

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:45PM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:45PM (#1038532)

          I love how the ignorant and racist media loves to pile on Metallica Trump because she's a whore who sold herself and now regrets it.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by bmimatt on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:42PM

        by bmimatt (5050) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:42PM (#1038528)

        The Chinese Communist Party will help them tune it, they have the required experience. TBF will be released in v1.0.2

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:13AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:13AM (#1038620)

        Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME NIGGER CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT NIGGER?

        OR

        Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

        Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A NIGGER SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

        The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

        SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS NIGGER FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

        WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

        TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

        As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

        APK

        P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:16AM (#1038622)
        Speaking of low-hanging fruit:

        It will also allow cops to find people wearing hats and glasses, or carrying bags and umbrellas.

        They've invented a system to find people carrying umbrellas. In London.

      • (Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:17AM (3 children)

        by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <{axehandle} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:17AM (#1038706)

        ...how does it deal with Resting Bitch Face and whatever the male equivalent is called.

        Probably carefully ignores resting faces. And I understand the politically correct term in Oz is "Resting Bastard Face".

        --
        It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @08:49AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @08:49AM (#1038756)

        I wonder if the resting bitch face is related to the " phone face" frequently seen in women who use the phone a lot... You know those three horizontal frown lines above each eyebrow, with the three vertical lines between the nose and hairline.

        Seems every woman who uses the phone a lot gets those, kinda like guitar picking does a number on the finger tips.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:52PM (#1038459)
    • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:54PM (3 children)

      by DECbot (832) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:54PM (#1038460) Journal

      Ah, so this explains the Joker's face paint. This really detracts from his sadistic lunatic image.
       
      Well, if I ever make it to the UK, I'll make sure to take my Groucho Marx makeup with me.

      --
      cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
      • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:14PM (2 children)

        by legont (4179) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:14PM (#1038550)

        I already bought a set of bandanas with all the necessary expressions printed - 36 in all.
        I am practicing wearing them two or three layers over each other and a discrete hand movement to switch. Looks very promising.

        --
        "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:14AM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:14AM (#1038763) Journal
          It'll be interesting to see if the detection system has some of the issues that can muck up such systems, like scale invariance and the right slight perturbations in an image can massively increase detection. Imagine putting a sticker on someone's backpack or car that is an image of an enraged face. Or wearing a t-shirt with an innocuous image which is slightly tweaked to trigger the system.
          • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday August 21 2020, @02:35AM

            by legont (4179) on Friday August 21 2020, @02:35AM (#1039687)

            One can try to arrange her underwear so it looks like a gun on the scanner and go to the airport to see what happens. My bet it will be 10 years incarceration; if she survives that is. Fooling street cameras will be the same at some point and this point is sooner than most think

            --
            "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:08PM (#1038463)

      Can it find people wearing "Mood" rings?

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:41PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:41PM (#1038498)

      So it was actually the "Two Minutes Rejoicing"? Was it my copy or your copy that was censored? :-)

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:52PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:52PM (#1038575) Journal

      I wasn't thinking Orwellian so much, as Minority Reportish. "That sumbitch is happy/sad/depressed/whatever, we better arrest his ass before he does something!"

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:38AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:38AM (#1038668) Journal

      The Computer wants you to be happy. If you are not happy, you may be used as reactor shielding.

      The Computer is crazy. The Computer is happy. The Computer will help you to become happy. This will drive you crazy.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:42PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:42PM (#1038436)

    These systems can't tell the difference between a Black person and a gorilla, and now they're expected to spot the difference between a happy Muslim and a disgruntled jihadi?

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:04PM (10 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:04PM (#1038445) Journal

      Why do you think the jihadi would be disgruntled? After all, he believes that he'll soon get 72 virgins.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:12PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:12PM (#1038466)

        There's a reason they're virgins.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:44PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:44PM (#1038481)

          They're the 72 previous jihadis dressed up in wigs and a skirt and fully shaving for that first non-virgin experience.

          Sure they lose out on punishing one virgin, but he has to live with discovering those 72 hole were not pussies...

      • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:16PM (5 children)

        by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:16PM (#1038490)

        72 virgins... in all eternity...

        It's like a LAN party that never ends.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:34PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:34PM (#1038494)

          72 virgins...

          Nobody ever mentions where those virgins come from. I find it hard to imagine that they're volunteers.

          What happens once each is deflowered? Do they each disappear and get replaced by a new one, so that it's an eternal, revolving count of 72? Surely the supply would quickly dwindle.

          Does their gender vary? The promise is for virgins, after all, not female virgins. If the gender varies, is it reasonable to assume species might, as well? Good luck deflowering the virgin grizzly bear.

          Are they ether-spawned creations? If yes, does that make them any different from a Fleshlight or a melon?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:41AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:41AM (#1038733)

            What happens once each is deflowered?

            Hah, you're making one hell of a presumption there..

            Does their gender vary? The promise is for virgins, after all, not female virgins. If the gender varies, is it reasonable to assume species might, as well? Good luck deflowering the virgin grizzly bear.

            Grizzlies..I like the way you think..alas! the tradition calls for goats....sheep, at a pinch (fuck em, then turn them into kebabs...have a look at the increase in sheep rustling in the UK for the areas adjacent to the Muslim heartlands)

          • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Wednesday August 19 2020, @09:20AM

            by Opportunist (5545) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @09:20AM (#1038760)

            The solution is probably much easier. They're 72 virgins allright, but your balls stay down here on earth. And they're male. And horny. And not too choosy.

            Hey, gotta read the fine print!

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:17AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:17AM (#1038765) Journal

            What happens once each is deflowered?

            I gather they get reflowered. Allah has this figured out.

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:26PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:26PM (#1038519) Journal

          Do you remember the last scene in the old 1960s Star Trek episode "I, Mudd" ?

          It's more like 72 copies of Mudd's old and endlessly nagging wife.

          For eternity.

          In a walmart.

          With no exits.

          --
          What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:45PM (1 child)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:45PM (#1038534)

        72 virgins? That sounds like hell.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:58PM (#1038804)

          72 Incels.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:51PM (#1038484)

      The very people they are probably wanting to find, eg the psychopathic mass murderer types, or even the popular used-car salesmen types - are exactly the people who will be able to thwart the system, due to their facial expressions being a practiced craft.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:16PM (#1038552)

      There are differences?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @06:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @06:19PM (#1041244)

      as if the treasonous pigs will be doing anything to stop the rape of england by the Jew-imported africans and arabs.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:47PM (1 child)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:47PM (#1038441) Journal

    You got your hippity-hoppity "light" moods, and you gots your mean and nasty "daaark moods"

    See how that works? The system is flawless!

    --
    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:28PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:28PM (#1038521) Journal

      When people of light and dark moods collide, do they annihilate into pure energy?

      --
      What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:10PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:10PM (#1038464)

    While being watched by a computer giving me a grade?

    Grumpy due to same.

    If someone is happy, then they seem bonkers and really need to be watched.
    Any good Brit should be able to get his grump on. The smileys are up to no good.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:23PM (2 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:23PM (#1038471)

    A British police force is set to trial a facial recognition system that infers people's moods

    After all is set up, the output results are:
    #54184: Horny
    #9649: Horny
    #72101: Horny
    #8292: Horny
    #62173: Horny
    ... and so on.

    "Ok, who's the wise guy who has been playing with the settings?"

    Although, do keep in mind that facial expressions and movements can communicate much more than happy or sad. The kinds of pre-crime/thoughtcrime they think they can detect are endless.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:25PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:25PM (#1038475) Journal

      That will detect males properly.

      What about females?

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      What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DECbot on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:07PM

        by DECbot (832) on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:07PM (#1038487) Journal

        OOOOkay.... After all is set up, the output results are:
        #54184: Horny Male with cigarette
        #9649: Horny Male with Viagra
        #72101: Horny Male with boobs
        #8292: Horny Male
        #62173: Horny Male in skirt
        ... and so on.
         
        Oh, I do see a problem. #54184 had a pen in his mouth, not a cigarette.

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        cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:24PM (2 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:24PM (#1038473) Journal

    Can Brits wear a smiley mask?

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    What doesn't kill me makes me weaker for next time.
  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:41PM (#1038527)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME NIGGER CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT NIGGER?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A NIGGER SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS NIGGER FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:45AM (#1038605)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME NIGGER CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT NIGGER?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A NIGGER SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS NIGGER FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:41AM (1 child)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:41AM (#1038669) Journal

    The joke's on them. Figures like Bruce Willis and Kristen Stewart will easily infiltrate their system and take them DOWN, because they have one look, ONE LOOK!

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    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:26PM (#1038834)

      Resting bitch face?

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