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On December 9 2008, 45-year-old Connie Culp became the first person in the United States, and only the fourth in the world, to receive a face transplant. Connie's transplant took a team at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio more than 22 hours to perform and allowed her to eat solid food again, to smell, and to breathe independently. Four years earlier, Connie had been shot in the face by her husband, who was subsequently imprisoned for seven years for aggravated attempted murder. Sadly, Connie died on July 29 2020, of an as yet unspecified infection.
[...] Understanding the psychological effects of living with visible facial difference, as well as a new face, is very important. Every surgical solution has emotional consequences, which are less documented than physical results. This reflects the context in which face transplants take place. Scientific medicine tends to focus on physical rather than mental measurements, and on the immediate "before and after" rather than the prolonged, complex work of psychological healing.
Surgical teams around the world are beginning to assess the quality of life outcomes of face transplants, but progress is slow. International comparisons are difficult to make, even in physical terms. Nine face transplant patients have died, and two faces have been rejected, but there are few examples of long term, holistic follow-up. Given Connie's work in raising public awareness of the impact of living with facial difference, there will be no more appropriate legacy than a better understanding of the benefits and limitations of face transplants.
The psychological wounds of the procedure may be harder to heal than the physical ones.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:46PM (29 children)
The shocking part for me is not about face transplantation, but that the shooter only got 7 years!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:53PM (2 children)
In this life there is no justice, maybe the next one...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:31PM (1 child)
Not all will agree, but I very much believe there will ultimately be justice.
And everyone, even the condemned will all say . . . Amen.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:58PM
Let's call it "karma" since it only happens by chance
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:00PM (3 children)
Well maybe there were extenuating circumstances [snopes.com].
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:09PM (2 children)
Conflating rape and murder / being shot in the face, classy.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:40PM (1 child)
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When I read it, I didn't see conflating the two.
First I saw the stupidity and ignorance of the original statements. Then I saw the same stupidity if you substituted being shot in the face, in each statement.
Not all will agree, but I see the people who said those things [snopes.com] as defective people. Others will defend what they said. Why wouldn't such humanity-challenged individuals also trivialize being shot in the face as easily as they excuse rape or murder.
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When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:13PM
Agree. I considered our parent post as demonstrating the fallacies of both paradigms. Actually, I found it to be an interesting comparison, and also a reminder that the legal profession can be quite trying.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:03PM
Almost guaranteed to be a plea bargain. Laziness on the part of the DA.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:06PM (15 children)
He didn't killed her with the bullet, but she likely died from an infection as a result of being shot in the face. Also, she likely never got back to what her "normal" was, before the shooting. While he's likely been out of jail for 5 years already and is definitely having a more normal life than she ever got after the fact.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:28PM (3 children)
She lived 11.5 years after the procedure, so it appears the infection wasn't from that or rejection of the tissue. They don't know yet what the infection was.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by choose another one on Wednesday August 19 2020, @08:31PM (2 children)
Except I bet she was probably on Immunosuppressants for life to prevent rejection of the transplant.
Guess what happens when you get infections when your immune system is suppressed? - nothing good.
Still, you're usually fairly safe as long as there aren't any serious infections spreading round significant portion of the population...
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @09:05PM (1 child)
That's it. Declare the cause of death as COVID, and the murderer is Trump.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday August 20 2020, @04:29PM
She may well have died from a COVID infection or gangrene or any number of infections that would be very problematic for someone who's immune system isn't up to snuff. Now, perhaps she was physically, fully healthy. Then went skiing on some random lake and got an amoeba in her brain, which killed her. That instance would definitely not be her ex-husband's fault. But, it's very likely, that he was indirectly responsible for her early death due to infection. Maybe she was a kind, forgiving person, and didn't hold a grudge against him, so he got a lighter 7 year sentence. She has the prerogative to feel that way, but as a society, we don't want someone running around, who feels they can just up and shoot someone in the face. The use of lethal force should have oversight. That doesn't mean that you should be able to tell someone not to have a gun to protect themselves. It does mean that, if someone shoots someone else, they better have a Real Good reason. Generally, shooting your wife in the face, wouldn't be counted as a Real Good reason. Sure, there might be edge cases, like my wife was in the middle of Lorena Bobbiting me or the like.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:46PM (6 children)
The seven year sentence is shocking. She was going to suffer for the rest of her life with what he had done. The face transplant was to enable the most basic things like eating solid food, smelling and breathing. So she not only suffered for years, but had a premature death.
The seven year sentence is shocking.
I won't even bring up the whole thing about crazy people being able to have firearms because there are too many who oppose any attempt to fix that.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @06:31PM
The husband also shot himself in the face and didnt die either. It was a failed murder-suicide.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @07:54PM (4 children)
How are you going to find out who are crazy enough to do something like that? There will always be crazy enough people to do all kinds of stuff. If he hadn't had a gun, he would've used a knife, or a shovel or a car or a 2 by 4. There's a crazy person as a president of US, Russia, North Korea etc. etc. How is it that you can't get rid of those people who can kill thousands and have and will? And not just kill, make life hell, which is even worse. There will never be 0 gun deaths, 0 car deaths, 0 knife deaths, 0 bicycle deaths, 0 heart attack deaths and so on and so on. Too tight rules and bans are rarely a solution. Think of all the other stuff that's done to people that are worse than death.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @09:01PM (2 children)
Then why ban missile launchers? I don't get it.
Your immovable line in the sand includes guns but not missile launchers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:41PM
Ban on missile launchers?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @03:19PM
There was no immovable line, read it again.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 20 2020, @02:02PM
It maybe impossible to find EVERYONE who is crazy/dangerous and prevent them from having dangerous weapons.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to find those who are easily identifiable.
We also can't prevent all pollution. Or all medical problems. Or all Facebook posts. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to solve these problems.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:51PM (3 children)
The shooter was Black so he deserved a reduced sentence as reparations for slavery.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @07:44PM (2 children)
They were both white, you lying, alt-right dumbshit. Here [lifedaily.com] is a photo of them.
But it sure helps your conservative political agenda to lie, doesn't it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @09:37PM
Saw your link.
Bet she was disappointed when the surgeon said he'd giver her a "cute trout pout."
(Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:23PM
Thanks for the link.
That was an interesting read. Now, how do we as a society implement pressure relief to keep stuff like that from blowing up again?
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:28PM
Well if they give people who kill others only 10 years, what would you give someone in this case?
*note I do not suppor the punishment either.
(Score: 2) by Revek on Thursday August 20 2020, @01:18AM (3 children)
They should go after him for murder now. Hard to prove that it didn't shorten her life.
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(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @02:22AM
OK go away now and retake civics.
(Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Thursday August 20 2020, @03:35PM (1 child)
Hard to prove it was the cause of her death which is what the prosecutor would be required to do.
(Score: 2) by Revek on Thursday August 20 2020, @11:22PM
Its worked a few times before. All it takes is one chronic condition associated with the injury.
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(Score: 3, Funny) by epitaxial on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:49PM (4 children)
One of the funniest things I ever heard Joan Rivers say was when she was on Howard Stern. He asked Joan about her thoughts on this face transplant recipient. She said "I can't wait for Britney Spears to die".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @06:04PM
She said "I can't wait for Britney Spears to die".
Yeah, how many trannies would kill for a brain transplant into that body?!
(Score: 3, Touché) by Opportunist on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:19PM
Neither can I.
But what's that gotta do with face transplants?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @12:31AM (1 child)
I must be transforming into a boomer, but I don't find wishing someone to die funny.
(Score: 2) by Revek on Thursday August 20 2020, @01:20AM
I've started putting together a lulz track for my wake. My daughter wants to turn me in to a tree but I want a flush party.
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