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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday August 22 2020, @07:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the self-referential dept.

Did a journal retract your paper on homeopathy? Meet the journal that will publish your complaint:

A homeopathy journal that Elsevier dropped in the wake of concerns about excessive self-citation appears to have carved out a new niche for itself: self-pity.

In 2016, Homeopathy lost its slot on Thomson Reuters's (now Clarivate's)  influential journal rankings list after an analysis found that more than 70% of citations in the papers it published were of papers it published. That led Elsevier to cut the journal loose — although it remains in business under the umbrella of Thieme, and has since earned its impact factor back. (For more on why that's important to journals, see this story.)

Part of Homeopathy's mission under new ownership, it seems, is to criticize journals that have spurned its contributors. Well, one journal, anyway.


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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @07:56PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @07:56PM (#1040503)

    Shit! That's just democrats!

    And homeopathy? That just confirms it!

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:19PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:19PM (#1040511)

      Quackery is more of a republican thing than a Democratic thing.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @09:23PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @09:23PM (#1040530)

        Dems don't revoke a homo's papers? QUACK QUACK!

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @11:01PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @11:01PM (#1040547)

        Nah, republicans don't do all that hippy herbal shit. They just over prescribe and send kickbacks

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @08:02PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @08:02PM (#1041308)

          Well, they push journal "papers" on hydroxychloroquin (or however the hell you spell it) authored by "digital currency entrepreneurs". Now it is some poisonous plant extract by pillow company execs positioned to gain financially. Or maybe you've got a wall to fund? They can help you there too.

          I think one big difference is that perhaps a good deal of the homeopathy journal authors are not self-aware whereas the Republicans know they are grifters.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:25PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:25PM (#1040515)

    "You can't post to this page."
    F.Y.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by driverless on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:19AM (1 child)

      by driverless (4770) on Sunday August 23 2020, @05:19AM (#1040678)

      Elsevier dropped a journal? How does this fit with their mission statement of maximising revenue above all else? If they actually drop a journal, no matter how much quackery it contains, they make less money. I don't get it.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 23 2020, @08:56AM

        by Bot (3902) on Sunday August 23 2020, @08:56AM (#1040727) Journal

        Making money makes no sense when you get to the level of those who print the money.

        Money -> Wealth -> Power -> Control

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by looorg on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:42PM (1 child)

    by looorg (578) on Saturday August 22 2020, @08:42PM (#1040520)

    Oh-no! If only they could add some more drops of water into the solution I'm sure the magical healing properties would transfer better ...

    Perhaps they can get together with the Crystal-people and all the other members of anti-science crowd that believe in magical thinking. The pity-party would be a lot more fun then.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @08:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2020, @08:05PM (#1041310)

      All of the self-references makes sense if you think about it: to make your external references more effective, and hence drive a larger impact factor, you need to dilute them with lots and lots of self-references. It's not their fault of Elsevier doesn't recognize this.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Opportunist on Saturday August 22 2020, @10:42PM (7 children)

    by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 22 2020, @10:42PM (#1040542)

    I do Pizzapathy now. Works like that:

    Whenever I have a headache, I take a Pizza Cardinale. And so 2-20 hours later, my headache is gone. Sometimes, though, my headache gets worse. That shows me that the pizza is working. That's called the "initial aggravation". But after another pizza, I'm usually fine.

    Pizza Cardinale works for me. But that's not true for everyone. A friend of mine has to use pizza tonno. That doesn't work for me at all, but he swears that it's his panacea. That's quite possible, it highly depends on the person. I recommend you go and get a pizza consulting session to find out what kind of pizza is for you. Don't get discouraged if it doesn't work out immediately, for many people it takes a while until they find the right pizza for them.

    So far, though, therapy pizzas don't get paid for by most health insurances. The reason for this is big pharma who discredit therapeutic pizzas because nobody would keep swallowing their bitter pills if you can get the same effect with delicious pizzas. Don't believe their propaganda,

    And don't try to tell me it's all in my head and I'm imagining this. HE WHO CURES IS RIGHT!

  • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Sunday August 23 2020, @06:46AM

    by istartedi (123) on Sunday August 23 2020, @06:46AM (#1040694) Journal

    1. Take the rejected paper, and shred it into confetti, each square of which is 4mm on a side.

    2. Take 1 teaspoon of the confetti, and dump it in the Pacific Ocean.

    3. Boom! Paper is no longer rejected.

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