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posted by janrinok on Sunday August 30 2020, @01:49AM   Printer-friendly

Tools behind Belarus internet censorship potentially revealed:

According to a Bloomberg report, the technology used to block much of the internet access during the recent presidential elections in Belarus has come from a US-based company.

The report states that Sandvine Inc., had supplied the necessary equipment to the Lukashenko government a few months earlier through an intermediary.

On August 9, Belarus held the presidential elections where Alexander Lukashenko was elected for the sixth consecutive time. However, the Election Day was marked by irregularities that cast doubt on the transparency of the elections.

In addition to the barricades built by security forces that prevented the passage of civilians to Minsk, Belarus' capital, the internet services in the country had a major disruption that affected access to websites such as social networks, news pages, and messaging applications.

The disruption lasted for up to three days, and there are still websites that are inaccessible in a normal way, so citizens need to use tools such as VPNs or specialized browsers.

[...] This would not be the first time the technology has been accused of being used to repress a nation. Citizen Lab, a Toronto security firm, had indicated that in 2018 equipment from this manufacturer was used in internet blocks that occurred in Egypt and Turkey. Sandvine Inc. said this investigation was false.


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @01:52AM (14 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @01:52AM (#1044036) Journal

    Welcome to the club!

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:51AM (13 children)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:51AM (#1044073)

      The problem is, like in Ukraine, it's the same mix of shit people on both sides. They lie just as much, and implore the same misinformation and corruption tactics.

      Yes, the election was rigged. Would the other side have rigged it - are they any better? No, because when you choose a turd from a toilet, you still end up with a turd. The opposition's numbers, which overwhelmingly support their side, are just as fake. They has something like a million telegram users take a vote on the app, and it showed something like 1mil for opposition, and 200k for the dictator. So those are their numbers. This is completely ignoring the fact that the vote was on a group against the current dictator, mostly by younger people, and that half the country has 2 sim cards (which is normal for eastern europe).

      It's the same as here. For all the bs fox and friends push with selectively hiding parts of the story to fit their narrative, blm and friends are doing the same thing.

      Let's take the basic - floyd. he can't breathe. Let's put it on a tshirt and trash people's houses. Let's ignore that on video he was yelling he can't breathe while comfortably sitting in the back of a car with the door open, and used that to try to escape.

      Then you got the right coming in with "he served prison time for beating up a pregnant woman with a gun." The real story is he was part of a group that broke into a house, and beat up the wife as the husband and toddler watched. She wasn't pregnant, and Floyd wasn't the one with the gun or the one doing the beating. That's bad enough, but they blatantly lie - just like the vote on telegram, just like the rigged original election.

      Same as with the 17yo shooter now. "He crossed state lines." Sounds bad. Except he lived right across the border, and the place he went to was where he worked and drove to all the time. That's lies from the left. And look at how the right always claims they threw a molotov at him (it was a bag with a bottle of water).

      It's shit on both sides in Belarus, here, and in Ukraine, where a few years after their revolution and a new president, they threw her in jail for being corrupt.

      Choosing turds from the toilet. It's your fellow man that's the enemy, not a representative turd in that toilet. The whole toilet.

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @04:10AM (1 child)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @04:10AM (#1044085) Journal

        It's shit on both sides...

        Well, fine... How 'bout them Cubs? Oh shit. Can't do that either.

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        • (Score: 2) by driverless on Sunday August 30 2020, @07:16AM

          by driverless (4770) on Sunday August 30 2020, @07:16AM (#1044105)

          It's shit on both sides...

          Well, fine... How 'bout them Cubs?

          They shit in the bushes. Only bears shit in the woods.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 30 2020, @05:33AM (10 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 30 2020, @05:33AM (#1044095) Journal

        (it was a bag with a bottle of water).

        Do you have a citation for that? I've watched several videos. Only the less informed are still claiming that it was a molotov cocktail.

        I see a plastic bag, containing *something* that I can't identify. It most resembles a glove, but it doesn't really look like a glove. Some sorta-finger-like doodiddies attached to a central circular area. Doesn't look like a bottle of water, but if you have an actual citation, I'd like to look at it.

        Thank you.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @06:58AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @06:58AM (#1044103)

          Another thing that Runaway does not know! The man is a veritable black hole of ignorance! He even forgot he voted for Trump, conveniently.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fakefuck39 on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:46AM (8 children)

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:46AM (#1044133)

          We'll never know if it was a bottle of water. All we know is it was a plastic bag, and that those protesters have been throwing water bottles at the cops. So most likely a water bottle, but no way to tell.

          bias source:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/conservatives-defend-kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse.html

          The less informed are all over reddit, on every sub. It's overwhelmingly said by these idiots, whether on /politics or /memes that it was a molotov. Indeed, it's overwhelmingly said that floyd beat a pregnant woman with a gun - because that meme of some random woman who got beaten up in spain is literally their definitive news source, despite the actual trial documents being publically available in pdf.

          The stupid is very strong. My phd geologist stepdad claims all man-made emissions put out less carbon dioxide than a single volcano. We have measured data showing human emissions are more than all volcanoes put together. His source? A meme he saw on facebook. But now when he says the meme authoritatively - "I know, I have a doctorate in geology."

          "only the less informed" is misleading. "the less informed" - yes. But they are the majority, and the less informed they are, the stronger their opinions are.

          A long time ago, Optane was coming out. I'm in data storage and servers - now a presales engineer who sells this shit. I explained, as people were talking about optane, that it's not like RAM, you can't mount it as a drive, and it's used for storage - mostly storage arrays and hyperconverged. How do I know this? I'm literally the guy who sells it. You and most other people here told me over and over again I didn't know what I'm talking about.

          We had another conversation too. About transparent aluminum. I tried to explain, as a guy with an organic chemistry minor, that aluminum oxide is not aluminum. I gave the example that table salt is not chlorine. We argued on an on. That time I was only arguing with you though, everyone else was laughing.

          I hate to tell you buddy, but those "less informed people" you keep talking about - that's you. In many many things. And as long as you don't admit it, you won't be informed, because you think you already are, so why learn new information.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:27PM (7 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:27PM (#1044192) Journal

            There are several journals here that only confirm that eye witness testimony and even recordings are inconclusive at their very best. Watch over there and see two people take diametrically opposed opinions of what is on the very same tape. Or any other news story for that matter. Are people really supposed to take that shit seriously? I mean, aside from the the crooks they reelect for 40 years as a result? What does it say about majority rule? It's not like this wasn't predicted two thousand years ago or more. So, what's the escape plan?

            Personally, I think Optane is a bit of a kludge to save pennies, an economic more than a technical advance, like those hybrid SSD/hard drives (but, pennies make a difference when you buy a hundred million of these things), but then I think computers are still in the stone age with abysmal file/storage/memory management in general. Moses had tablets that were more advanced, and probably much more durable, even if they were effectively WORM drives

            Since you brought it up, can we do transparent aluminum yet?

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            • (Score: 1) by fakefuck39 on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:00PM (6 children)

              by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:00PM (#1044378)

              I didn't read that ramble in the first paragraph, but optane is a kludge to save hundreds of thousands per purchase. If you take an EMC PMAX array, medium-sized, with all SSD and dedup+compression+thin provisioning, 7RAID5, here are your options, cost after a standard 60% discount:

              4TB SDRAM cache, 3PB RAW storage, 7PB effective storage. It'll run you about $6mil. Read response time about 100microseconds. Write response time about 50microseconds for 10min at full continuous load, and about 2ms after those 10min.

              Now let's say your write load is over 10min. You want to sustain it for an hour. You can double the cache. That's about $1.5mil. That lets enough data aggregate in the write buffer so it's dedupped, write folded, and compressed before it hits the backend. This lets you sustain the full load on the array indefinitely instead of for a 10min spike.

              Or, you can add about 5TB of Optane, for about $300k. It lets you sustain that same write load indefinitely. You just saved $1.2mil, on what is a single medium-sized enterprise storage array. You have 10 of those arrays, and you refresh them every 5 years.

              No one's buying Optane for consumer hybrid HDD+SSD configurations. Yes, I'm sure you can find me a couple of laptops on newegg that do that. I can also find you a guy who moves his piano in a minivan.

              As far as transparent Al, no we don't have that yet, and I doubt we could at STP, since it would require some kind of a stable crystal structure for what is a flammable metal.

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:11PM (5 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:11PM (#1044383) Journal

                I didn't read that ramble in the first paragraph...

                :-) Ah, so you're in denial too... Eh, whatever, I'm easy

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                • (Score: 1) by fakefuck39 on Monday August 31 2020, @05:22AM (4 children)

                  by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday August 31 2020, @05:22AM (#1044490)

                  Not sure what the denial is supposed to be about, just not interested in what you had to say after skimming the first sentence of your ramble, so I didn't read the rest. Pretty sure you actually said nothing though, but just used a lot of words to do it.

                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 31 2020, @05:51AM (3 children)

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday August 31 2020, @05:51AM (#1044491) Journal

                    Well, obviously you read it if you spent the time to tell me it was nothing.

                    Whatever, peace out

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                    • (Score: 1) by fakefuck39 on Monday August 31 2020, @09:38PM (2 children)

                      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday August 31 2020, @09:38PM (#1044713)

                      Telling you is a fun thing to do on the toilet. It's what I imagine I would tell Trump or Bernie after their long speech - btw, I wasn't listening to that pile of retardation. It gives me pleasure to do that. I can enjoy telling you I didn't read it for hours (a poop after a meaty meal and not enough water. Still not worth 10 seconds for me to read it. Mr Sherlock Holmes of deduction we got over here.

                      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 31 2020, @09:55PM (1 child)

                        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday August 31 2020, @09:55PM (#1044717) Journal

                        :-) glad to see you're so easily entertained.

                        It gives me pleasure to do that.

                        I'm sure it does. Be sure to clean up

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                        • (Score: 2, Funny) by fakefuck39 on Monday August 31 2020, @10:08PM

                          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday August 31 2020, @10:08PM (#1044724)

                          I did. I especially like getting the butthole nice and clean. You get the wet-nap and just press nice and hard in a circular motion for a minute or two. To get it even cleaner, you can sit on the edge of the bathtub and aim the hand shower on pulse right up there. Gotta get it clean. So the house-nigger's dick doesn't get shit on it.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:27AM (6 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:27AM (#1044047) Journal

    According to pictures, the Belarussian liberal oppositionists are waving white-red state flags used during German Nazi occupation 1942-1944.

    Where did they got them delivered from?

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:44AM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:44AM (#1044052) Journal

      Hamburg?

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:37AM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:37AM (#1044064) Journal

      Where did they got them delivered from?

      Probably some sinister place like Bangladesh or Jordan, the places where you get cheap textiles. Unless, you're suggesting that someone kept a zillion Nazi flags stored for 70 years. In which case, I'd suggest Russia as the most likely source.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @09:17AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @09:17AM (#1044120)

        It's not so much where the Nazi flags were made, more the fact that someone had already ordered up sufficient quantities of said flags for them to magically appear in numbers and then having available a sufficient percentage of the population knowing full well the history of said flags but who don't care about the obvious connotations or consequences of them waving the things in public at this point in time.

        As to who?, simplifying the mess to pro-anti Russia factions where both sides and their 'international sponsors' are all scheming shitheads, on the one hand the flags will be a rallying point for the 'nostalgic' anti-Russian factions of the Belarus population whose 'ideals' naturally lead them to collaborate with the Nazis back then in their 'glory days', on the other they're a red rag to the bull for the pro-Russian factions ('remember the great patriotic war...').

        It benefits both sides here in the game of shit stirring for these flags to be there, but, I'd say that the pro-Russian factions probably have a bit more to gain by their presence apropos propaganda. They can point them out to the neutral section of the international community and say 'see, this trouble, it's bloody Nazis that we're fighting against here again', and they'll also cause unease and division within their opposition Belarus faction who, although they might be anti-Russian, they're also anti-Nazi.

        Welcome to 21st century humanity, despite our alleged technical sophistications, it's depressingly fucking amazing how much trouble you can still cause by merely waving simple bits of coloured rag around...

        Sheep herding, eh?

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:35AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 30 2020, @11:35AM (#1044152) Journal

          It's not so much where the Nazi flags were made, more the fact that someone had already ordered up sufficient quantities of said flags for them to magically appear in numbers and then having available a sufficient percentage of the population knowing full well the history of said flags but who don't care about the obvious connotations or consequences of them waving the things in public at this point in time.

          They aren't Nazi flags BTW - they've been in use since 1918. But sounds like you don't care about the obvious connotations.

          It benefits both sides here in the game of shit stirring for these flags to be there, but, I'd say that the pro-Russian factions probably have a bit more to gain by their presence apropos propaganda. They can point them out to the neutral section of the international community and say 'see, this trouble, it's bloody Nazis that we're fighting against here again', and they'll also cause unease and division within their opposition Belarus faction who, although they might be anti-Russian, they're also anti-Nazi.

          Only one side is shit-stirring in this thread.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @09:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @09:01AM (#1044118)

      It was used in 1991-1995 (after the fall of USSR, basically), until Lukashenko decided he wants it different.

    • (Score: 1) by Nomad on Monday August 31 2020, @08:15AM

      by Nomad (12524) on Monday August 31 2020, @08:15AM (#1044513)

      Long time lurker here, I just created an account to correct your misleading statements. My wife is Belarusian and during the last ten years I have been lots of times there, I have now family and friends in that country and I know it much better than the average westerner.

      The white-red-white flag was devised as the national flag of Belarus when it became independent in 1918, until it joined by the Soviet Union. After joining the Soviet Union this flag was used by some political an non-political organizations against the Soviet regime, finally it was forbidden in 1939 by the USSR. During the nazi occupation some belarusian collaborators used this flag for a couple of years (possibly precisely because it was a flag not accepted by the Soviet government) but they never got to make it their own. When Belarus became independent in 1991 the new country again made this their national flag, just like in 1918. One of the first measures Lukashenko took when he got the power in 1994 was to adopt a new flag very similar to the old soviet belarusian flag. Since 1995 the opposition to Lukashenko adopted the white-red-white flag as one of their symbols against the dictator.

      Nobody in Belarus thinks it has anything to do with the nazi occupation (for example: my wife's grandmother had to run from her village when she was a child, her parents and most of the village population were massacred by the German army, and she had to live for a long time in the forests with the partisans. She is very proud of the white-red-white flag hanging in her bedroom). As to your question about where they buy these flags, they don't buy them, most people make them themselves, and there are also volunteers who work in the clothing industry in Belarus who make the big flags for the manifestations as long as they have the materials they need. The first week of protests they ran out of white and red fabric in Minsk.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:43AM (#1044051)

    Belorussians see themselves as extremely patient. They pride(?) themselves for putting up with extreme hardship.

    Finally, they are rising up.

    Too bad, yous are stuck next to Russia. Putin's gonna roll down the tanks for Lukashenko who sell out the country to Russia.

  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Tokolosh on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:54AM (6 children)

    by Tokolosh (585) on Sunday August 30 2020, @02:54AM (#1044055)

    I look forward to the day when Mr. Musk airdrops UFOs on sticks to any place that has lost internet connectivity - naughty autocrats, natural disasters, incompetence, whatever.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:26AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:26AM (#1044062)

      I look forward to the day when Mr. Musk airdrops UFOs on sticks to any place that has lost internet connectivity - naughty autocrats, natural disasters, incompetence, whatever.

      Airdropped corndogs and beer beat UFOs on sticks any day.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 30 2020, @05:36AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 30 2020, @05:36AM (#1044096) Journal

        QOTD: Take your Senator to lunch this week.

        Can we just airdrop some senators and congressmen on sticks? We could think up a cool name - like - ohhhhh - how about "Shitkabob"?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday August 30 2020, @06:36AM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday August 30 2020, @06:36AM (#1044101) Journal

      Not just any place?

      Elon Musk's plan to blanket Earth in high-speed internet may face a big threat: China [businessinsider.com]

      "Obviously, any given country can say it's illegal to have a ground link. [...] And from our standpoint we could conceivably continue to broadcast," Musk said during the event. "I mean, I'm hopeful that we can structure agreements with various countries to allow communication with their citizens, but it is on a country-by-country basis."

      So what if SpaceX continued to broadcast uncensored internet over China, despite not being given permission?

      "If they get upset with us, they can blow our satellites up, which wouldn't be good," Musk said. "China can do that. So probably we shouldn't broadcast there."

      This article in Hong Kong's SCMP (not long for this world?) is much more optimistic [scmp.com]:

      It potentially marks the end of internet censorship – or at least makes it very difficult. Starlink’s “pizza box” terminals access the free global internet from anywhere, making it incredibly difficult for governments to block off the bits they don’t want citizens to see. The signals would bypass China’s Great Firewall, for instance, and it would no longer be possible for governments to implement internet shutdowns, as India often does on the grounds of public order.

      How can any government stop it? They may ban the sale of the antennas, but with a 3D printer and some ingenuity people would soon be able to make them. Jamming signals or shooting down thousands of small satellites will be tricky, the only option would be to ask Elon personally to turn it off.

      But not this one: Does Elon Musk’s dream of satellite internet for all matter to anyone in China? [scmp.com]

      This article originally appeared on ABACUS [abacusnews.com]

      [...] One possible scenario would be for Starlink user terminals to be smuggled into China. It would then be technically possible for people with the terminals and an active account to use the service within the country.

      But if Musk’s own words are any indication, he doesn’t seem too keen on this approach. In a speech in 2015 [youtu.be], when Starlink debuted at a SpaceX factory in Seattle, Musk said China has the “choice to shoot our satellites down” if Starlink broadcasts in the country.

      [...] So if Starlink ever does figure out a way to officially provide service in China, it probably won’t make a difference to Chinese users, according to Lan. It would likely offer a similar user experience to landline internet, and it wouldn’t change the reality of internet censorship in the country.

      “If you want to provide service in China, you have to comply with all of China’s requirements in terms of communications regulation, otherwise you won’t even get permission,” Lan said. “And if you satisfy regulators’ demands, then for users, it’s the same.”

      Wherever governments are incapable of stopping it, it could flourish. Egypt [wikipedia.org] would be one example. All you need are smuggled in user terminals. Also, SpaceX has to get intersatellite links working, which they haven't done at all with v1.0 satellites.

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      • (Score: 2) by Tokolosh on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:11PM (2 children)

        by Tokolosh (585) on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:11PM (#1044187)

        A Chinese attack on Starlink would result in a Kessler syndrome and massive collateral consequences for China. I don't think they will risk it.

        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:27PM (1 child)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:27PM (#1044193) Journal

          No Kessler syndrome in LEO.

          China could also try jamming or tracking the users, or could exercise pressure on Musk some other way. Like booting Tesla out of the country.

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          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:37PM

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:37PM (#1044196) Journal

            If China starts blowing up satellites, I will assume theirs will be pulverized also. I doubt very much it is very one sided either way. The best thing for Musk to do is to put up a heavy swarm of satellites that are more difficult to pin down. That should work until the laser cannons are deployed.

            No of these people care about "freedom", they do what is necessary to stay in business.

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Bot on Sunday August 30 2020, @07:35AM (3 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday August 30 2020, @07:35AM (#1044108) Journal

    Fact, the president of Belarus denounced having been offered millions by the WHO to submit his country to cover emergency the way they dictated.

    Interpretation: if you are a conspiracy negationist he was poisoning the well to look good and independent for the upcoming elections. Problem, such an attack is gonna make your hypothetical next term a lot harder, as in take your things and run for the border hard.

    If OTOH you admit things like the sun shines and WHO is headed by a literal puppet, then this looks like backslash, the too much independent guy will be swallowed by either China, which controls EU, or Russia. Nothing new under the sun.

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    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:02PM (2 children)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:02PM (#1044359)

      Fact, (is actually a lie).

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday August 31 2020, @01:34PM (1 child)

        by Bot (3902) on Monday August 31 2020, @01:34PM (#1044576) Journal

        ummm i overrate you 'bags.

        what is the verb in the phrase I stated as fact?

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        • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday August 31 2020, @10:24PM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday August 31 2020, @10:24PM (#1044727)

          Fact, the president of Belarus denounced having been offered millions by the WHO to submit his country to cover emergency the way they dictated.

          Is a complete load.

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