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posted by Fnord666 on Monday November 30 2020, @10:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the pointy-bits dept.

6,000 years of arrows emerge from melting Norwegian ice patch:

Archaeologists in Norway have discovered dozens of arrows—some dating back 6,000 years—melting out of a 60-acre ice patch in the county's high mountains.

Expeditions to survey the Langfonne ice patch in 2014 and 2016, both particularly warm summers, also revealed copious reindeer bones and antlers, suggesting that hunters used the ice patch over the course of millennia. Their hunting technique stayed the same even as the weapons they used evolved from stone and river shell arrowheads to iron points.

Now the research team is revealing the finds in a paper published today in the journal Holocene. A record-setting total of 68 complete and partial arrows (and five arrowheads) were ultimately discovered by the team on and around the melting ice patch–more than archaeologists have recovered from any other frozen site in the world. Some of the projectiles date to the Neolithic period while the most "recent" finds are from the 14th century A.D.

Also at:

Ice melt reveals ancient reindeer-hunting arrows. - Thanks Runaway1956!

Journal Reference:
Lars Holger Pilø, James H Barrett, Trond Eiken, et al. Interpreting archaeological site-formation processes at a mountain ice patch: A case study from Langfonne, Norway: [open], The Holocene (DOI: 10.1177/0959683620972775)


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 30 2020, @07:57PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 30 2020, @07:57PM (#1082512)

    Perhaps, perhaps not. You'd need to first define what constitutes an "alarmist" first so that we can at least start from the same frame of reference.

    The more interesting question in my mind is whether there is anything that can stand a "denier" on their head? We've got many decades of an amazing diversity of direct observations spread across almost all scientific disciplines, and something like a 95% consensus of scientific opinion on the general points, and they still cover their eyes and ears and follow their talk radio pundits and other similarly unqualified thought leaders to . . . well, I don't know where. And it is a intellectual mindset. For instance, did you know there are people who actually deny COVID is real even as they are literally dying of it?

    Some men, you just can't reach. So he goes to a rally or motorcycle event and he gets COVID -- which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it anymore than you men.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 30 2020, @08:16PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 30 2020, @08:16PM (#1082524) Journal

    whether there is anything that can stand a "denier" on their head?

    I dunno - maybe if you can explain away the tropical ferns under the antarctic ice that were apparently quick-freeze-dried overnight? Key words there are "tropical" fern, in "antarctica", and "overnight". It seems that ALL of the world's landmasses have been covered in tropical forests in the past. Yet, life persisted, even through the ice ages. Life will persist even through the next warm period.

    We will adjust, or we will die.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Tuesday December 01 2020, @12:22AM (1 child)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday December 01 2020, @12:22AM (#1082617) Journal

    Some men, you just can't reach. So he goes to a rally or motorcycle event and he gets COVID ...

    But if he got it at an Antifa/BLM riot, that would be pro-science, right? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/Epidemiologists-coronavirus-protests-quarantine.html [nytimes.com]

    If we are going to be honest, "science denial" is a symptom of both Team Red and Team Blue. The word "science denial" though is sort of loaded with presumption. Science is a process, a method, for getting to every more accurate understandings of reality, but to think that once this method lends supporting evidence to one ideology or the other, that the issue is settled for all time, and never subject to revision by later better information, is to misunderstand at the most fundamental level what science is and what the answers that we get actually mean.

    I am not in any way denigrating science here -- I'm not suggesting that scientific knowledge is invalid because it is subject to change and correction, nor saying we should not use our scientific understandings to inform policy. Quite the opposite in fact because the scientific method is THE MOST powerful, useful, efficient, and effective means of ascertaining the truth (or a best approximation thereof) about reality that has existed in all of human history. No other method of acquiring knowledge comes even close to the scientific method. What I am denigrating however, is the "follow science" ideological regurgitators who only use that slogan when scientific findings support their presumptions, or worse, who employ their scientific prestige to push an agenda under religious circumstances as noted above.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday December 01 2020, @02:26PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday December 01 2020, @02:26PM (#1082815) Journal

      That is very well put. I hope you save this comment and repost it in the future when the subject inevitably comes up again.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.