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[Ed's Comment: Not wishing to ignite yet another flame war regarding the adoption of systemd, I hesitated before publishing this story. However, although it is not an formal survey, it might still reflect the views of the greater linux user community rather than those who frequent this particular site. There is no need to restate the arguments seen over the last few weeks - they are well known and understood - but the survey might have a point.]
http://q5sys.sh has recenlty conducted a survey finding many Linux users may be in favour of systemd:
First off lets keep one thing in mind, this was not a professional survey. As such the results need to be taken as nothing more than the opinions of the 4755 individuals who responded. While the survey responses show that 47% of the respondents are in favor of systemd, that does not mean that 47% of the overall linux community is in favor of systemd. The actual value may be higher or lower. This is simply a small capture of our overall community.
Although the author questions the results could this be an indication that we're really seeing a vocal minority who don't want systemd while the silent majority either do or simply don't care? Poll results and the original blog post.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Friday November 21 2014, @05:10AM
Follow the money and you'll see what the story REALLY is, and its all about "cloud computing" which RH is pushing. Are you planning to run a cloud computing datacenter? No? Then its not gonna help you and will in fact add a big fat single point of failure. For those that want to learn more this blog [blogspot.com] is a good place to start.
And before somebody goes "Ur teh windows guy u no get to talk" I have ALWAYS supported the USERS over the suits, I supported the users when Balmer was trying to shove Win 8 down the user's throats, I supported the users when Pulse was shoved out there in an alpha state, i was and always will support the users over the suits because hey, if you listen to the users you'll find their wants and needs are rather sensible.
Besides anybody that doesn't smell a tuna factory sized fish at the way things have been going on, what with stability focused distros like Debian jumping on when even the supporters admit critical parts aren't complete, with users being banned and discussions being erased...WTF? And wadda ya know, this critical subsystem required by every distro, including those focused on privacy and security, which replaces a part that even nitpickers like me honestly had no real complaints with, is being pushed like its the most important thing since the kernel.....by a company that gets more than 85% of their revenue from the 3 letter agencies. Look it up, DoD,NSA,CIA,FBI, if the US government quit buying RH licenses tomorrow the company would be dead in the water. And to add to all this the stomping of any opposition with bans, erasing threads, and treating everyone who says they are opposed as some sort of troll or idiot? Yeah after snowden I'm sorry but I think everyone with a brain should be worried about putting a critical subsystem like that in the hands of a company practically owned by the US gov. Its just common sense.
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(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday November 21 2014, @08:43AM
Ur teh windows guy - why ur OS not taken into consideration? This pole only considered how popular systemd woz - which is about 1% favouring it. 90+% of people prefer windows. If popularity is an important metric for the systemd supporters, then they have lost.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21 2014, @09:44AM
So you stopped reading at "windows" and missed his points entirely.
Bravo, bravo!
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday November 21 2014, @04:46PM
If you wanna take my OS into consideration? Fine its a perfect example of how voting with your wallet empowers users more than the so called "meritocracy" of Linux. After all when Balmer tried to ignore the will of the users with Windows 8 the users refused to buy, OEMs stopped pushing it for Win 7, and Balmer ended up replaced by Nadella who has given the users EXACTLY what they asked for as Windows 10? Its just Win 7 with improvements to speed and ease of use. Hell I've got it running on a circa 2009 AMD netbook and even with such a weak APU and every driver running in compatibility mode its faster in every way and even has hardware acceleration.
Compare this to the supposedly more user oriented Linux, the users as you pointed out have said loud and clear "We don't want this!" only to be told they were idiots, have their voices silenced with secret votes, users banned, and threads erased, and the heads of the major distros saying loud and clear "We don't give a single fuck what you want, you can take it or leave". And wadda ya know, many are doing just that and leaving. There are many tutorials on how to migrate to BSD popping up all over the place and some have even said they are taking my advice and running Windows 10.
IMHO the mess with systemd just proves what I've been saying for years, that Linux is a server OS controlled by corporate interests. If you are not running a fortune 500 datacenter? Your voice is worthless and ignored by the PTB. At least with Windows we can use the power of the wallet to change the direction, it looks like nothing the users say or do will keep them from getting system'd right up the butt.
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(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 21 2014, @08:59PM
They did what everyone wanted: nuke that atrocity of a start screen, and make metro apps run in a damn window with a full screen option. 99% of the problems were solved right there.
There were no AMD APU's made in 2009. The Bobcat series did not debut until 2011. Hell the Core i7 was still very new in 2009. Perhaps you were speaking of the first Bobcat APU's? That was 2011. A netbook most likely has a cheap, SLOOOOOW 5400RPM disk and low memory, maybe 2GB.
I had Windows Vista running satisfactorily on an AMD x2 w/2GB RAM as long as you turned off all of the stupid fucking services that ground the hard disk on a near constant basis (system restore, RAC, ReadyBoost, Superfetch, Windows Search, and Windows Defender.) Windows 7 fixed those services and they no longer trashed your system. 7 runs fine without tweaks on an old P4 with 2GB RAM and can run office apps and a few others without much effort. Using a fast disk with more RAM can make an old PC feel like a new one. Vista damaged their reputation not because of a bad underlying architecture but because of shit services that ate up I/O and CPU for no reason.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday November 22 2014, @01:14AM
My bad, got the presentation and the release date mixed up, it was presented in 2009 and released in jan 2011. I grabbed one of the first units, the 1215B [asus.com] which is still fucking great to this day. I slapped in 8GB of RAM and it makes a hell of a mini workstation, even does 1080P over HDMI for those times I have a support call with a customer that has lousy eyesight. they really need to bring back the netbooks, when they were sub $300 I couldn't keep 'em in stock, I ended up having to buy up refurbs as the stocks ran out.
And I'm sorry but I ran 8.1 and it was STILL deep fried ass, as Metro crap was still too tightly ingrained. As I ran it it was like playing pop goes the weasel, you never knew when something Metro'd would be slammed in your face. With Windows 10 all that crap is gone, the only Metro is a few live tiles on the task panel and a simplified control panel that you have the OPTION of using as a quick shortcut to most common control panel uses, kinda like "sort by category" on Win 7. I can't wait until its released, if the rumors are true and its free or less than $30 a pop I'l be grabbing copies left and right.
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(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Saturday November 22 2014, @07:22PM
10 looks to be the ticket. I believe it still has Metro as the weather and news apps looks and acts like a metro apps but in a window. And lets be honest, its not like they couldn't window metro apps, they just wanted to play the "me too" game and force them full screen to act like they knew about mobile.
The price is 30 bucks or less? Shit, i'm all over that. I spent $300 on Win 7 Ultimate and spent $130 on numerous copies of OEM Win 7 pro at work. Now that 7 is ending mainstream and going into extended support, OEM and retail versions will be hard to find. I only hope 10 comes out sooner rather than later. I wont touch 8, even my manager refuses to let 8 in the building. The only experience I had with it was testing in a VM and deleting it the same day.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday November 23 2014, @12:52PM
You didn't hear? here is the scuttlebutt straight from the mouth of Mary Jo Foley who usually has the inside track at Redmond.
According to her the IMHO frankly awesome new CEO Nadella is tired of the XP holdouts and is fearful that 7 will become another XP so he wants to nip that shit in the bud. Since so few of their sales are from upgrades he is debating either making Win 10 free for everybody or making it free for everybody who bought Win 8/8.1 as an apology and making it a flat $30 for the Home version for everybody else. If the rumor is true you'll be able to upgrade at any time to a higher tier if you need to OR, get ready for this, you'll be able to just buy any of the higher features ala carte. So if you just want bitlocker or domain support? Just buy it! Its not as solid as the pricing rumor but there is talk the higher tiers will likely see deep cuts as well, with pro being $75 and Ultimate $100 but there is serious talk of just getting rid of Ultimate and just having Home and Pro.
And I'm running the latest on my netbook and while they do have a few of the simplified Metro apps like the Music and News apps along with the Windows Store again it appears its all gonna be OPTIONAL so you can just run what you want which frankly is what pissed everybody off about Win 8, lack of options. You can even switch to Metro if you want which IMHO is fucking awesome as the Metro UI is great for HTPCs as a 10 foot UI so with Win 10 we can have the Win 7 UI for work and play and Metro for HTPCs, best of both worlds.
But Foley is usually right on the money and if it turns out to be free or just $30? I'll be all over that shit. I'll probably keep 1 system on Win 7 simply for Windows DVD Maker, I have yet to find anything that makes nice DVDs simpler than DVD Maker and on my home system I'll probably make it a dual boot for a year like I did with XP and 7 before I nuke 7, just in case I find an old program that don't like Win 10. And the rumor is it goes RTM summer 2015 so that the OEMs can have it for the big back to school rush so we should be able to just glide from 7 to 10 without any worries. I know it let me keep ALL my programs I had installed under 7, and I do mean all, even the drivers and lower level stuff like codecs were switched over to Win 10 without me having to do jack shit! That's right, you happy with the programs you have installed on Win 7? You can KEEP EM ALL, they will be right there in all programs after you upgrade! Honestly I have NEVER in all my years seen a more easy upgrade, it was less than 40 minutes from sticking in the flash to surfing the web in Windows 10, fucking awesome.
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