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UPDATE - Pope Affirms Anthropogenic Global Warming

posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 18 2015, @11:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the from-his-lips-to-gods-ears dept.

aristarchus writes:

Despite the santorum splattered about, the Pontiff of the Church Universal and Triumphant [EDIT: This is actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church, not the Church Universal and Triumphant] is going to agree with the climate change consensus in an encyclical to be released on Thursday. Early leaks give some idea of the content.

Pope Francis is preparing to declare humans as primarily responsible for climate change, call for fossil fuels to be replaced by renewable energy and decry the culture of consumerism, a leaked draft of his much anticipated statement on the environment suggests.

The source for this somehow concerns Australians, but we will take any indication of infallibility where we can get it.

So the humble submitter has to wonder, does this mean that climate-change deniers are now to be considered heretics, rather than just Petro shills or anti-environmental conservative conspiracy theorists? It does add a entirely new dimension to the debate, and I hope that God will forgive your Conservative asses for screwing up Her creation in the quest for profit.

UPDATE - janrinok 18 Jun 12:36UTC

fritsd writes:

is it possible to update/append aristarchus' post "Pope Affirms Anthropogenic Global Warming" (https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/17/0317256), as follows:

Update: The encyclical can be read and downloaded here.

I am not affiliated with the submitter, aristarchus, or the pope. I have a slightly paranoid reason for asking for this update; it is my experience that, whenever politically important documents are published, the actual document often gets overshadowed by an enormous load of blog commentary, providing a bit of "damage control" and "spin". It is my fervent opinion that the readership of Soylentnews deserves to read the actual source documents. (It's only 82 pages long, in this case, anyway).

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by stormwyrm on Friday June 19 2015, @03:48AM

    by stormwyrm (717) on Friday June 19 2015, @03:48AM (#198105) Journal
    Venus gets a mean solar irradiance of 2611 W/m2, about twice that of the Earth's at 1370 W/m2. Its radius is about 6052 km, so the half of it that faces the sun absorbs about 3×1011 W of solar power. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann Law: P = AσT4 where P is the radiated power, A is the surface area, σ is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant, and T is the temperature, we can get T = (P/(Aσ))¼. Plugging in the values, we get T = 327 K, or 54°C, assuming Venus to be a perfect blackbody. If it reflected 30% of the solar radiation it received immediately the way the Earth does, its temperature would be about 27°C. It's not hard to imagine (although it's a bit harder to actually calculate) given these figures that even a modest amount of greenhouse gases would have a tremendous effect on Venus.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @04:36AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @04:36AM (#198113)

    So the ratio between the two "no greenhouse temperatures" at the surface would be ~1.176 correct? I'm using 300/255 (in Kelvins)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @04:46AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @04:46AM (#198116)

    I'm getting at this:
    https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7856&cid=194580#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    I think you guys/girls are missing something big. Most likely there is an equilibrium that is not considered.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @07:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @07:37AM (#198985)

      Second time no response on this site. This is consistent with everywhere else.