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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 18 2015, @11:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the from-his-lips-to-gods-ears dept.

Despite the santorum splattered about, the Pontiff of the Church Universal and Triumphant [EDIT: This is actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church, not the Church Universal and Triumphant] is going to agree with the climate change consensus in an encyclical to be released on Thursday. Early leaks give some idea of the content.

Pope Francis is preparing to declare humans as primarily responsible for climate change, call for fossil fuels to be replaced by renewable energy and decry the culture of consumerism, a leaked draft of his much anticipated statement on the environment suggests.

The source for this somehow concerns Australians, but we will take any indication of infallibility where we can get it.

So the humble submitter has to wonder, does this mean that climate-change deniers are now to be considered heretics, rather than just Petro shills or anti-environmental conservative conspiracy theorists? It does add a entirely new dimension to the debate, and I hope that God will forgive your Conservative asses for screwing up Her creation in the quest for profit.

UPDATE - janrinok 18 Jun 12:36UTC

is it possible to update/append aristarchus' post "Pope Affirms Anthropogenic Global Warming" (https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/17/0317256), as follows:

Update: The encyclical can be read and downloaded here.

I am not affiliated with the submitter, aristarchus, or the pope. I have a slightly paranoid reason for asking for this update; it is my experience that, whenever politically important documents are published, the actual document often gets overshadowed by an enormous load of blog commentary, providing a bit of "damage control" and "spin". It is my fervent opinion that the readership of Soylentnews deserves to read the actual source documents. (It's only 82 pages long, in this case, anyway).


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @08:59PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @08:59PM (#198423)

    What people think has nothing to do with the facts. The evidence overwhelmingly shows that humans are causing the world to heat up due to all the CO2 we're dumping into the atmosphere. Those are the facts, facts and evidence don't depend on who "agrees" with them and whether or not they're the majority. In your cited example of Ignaz Semmelweis, he had no evidence and no scientific explanation for why washing one's hands would reduce mortality, so he was rightly mocked and ignored. Facts and evidence dictate what should be believed, rather than having one's mind already decided at the start and then cherrypicking evidence to support it. If you have no evidence to support your claim, you should not expect anyone to believe you, and if you believe something contrary to the evidence, you should expect to be called out for being delusional.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @10:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 19 2015, @10:30PM (#198469)

    In your cited example of Ignaz Semmelweis, he had no evidence and no scientific explanation for why washing one's hands would reduce mortality, so he was rightly mocked and ignored.

    You appear to be uninformed. He did have evidence:

    While employed as assistant to the professor of the maternity clinic at the Vienna General Hospital in Austria in 1847, Semmelweis introduced hand washing with chlorinated lime solutions for interns who had performed autopsies. This immediately reduced the incidence of fatal puerperal fever from about 10% (range 5–30%) to about 1–2%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis [wikipedia.org]

    His evidence was no worse than that for vaccines (vaccine licensed this year then reported cases dropped!) which is commonly accepted.