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posted by NCommander on Saturday July 18 2015, @08:52AM   Printer-friendly
from the more-spam-for-spam-assassion dept.

A lighter piece on the performance of the CAN-SPAM anti-spam law:

...while I've accepted that my work inbox is going to be filled with junk, I go to great lengths to keep my private e-mail pristine. I use a personal domain instead of an emailprovider.com address, and the spammers haven't found it. Even my junk folder is empty. It's glorious.

Or at least it was, until I made the mistake of getting something at Best Buy. For a full four weeks, I received one or two e-mails a day from the ubiquitous retail store with subject lines like "4-HOUR SALE: Starts now," "You'd be crazy to pass on this," "Amazing deals end soon," and "Jon, save 15% on ink and toner."
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It's been four weeks and my Best Buy account still hasn't been deleted. But the e-mails finally stopped, not through the efforts of Precious, Rod, or Helen, but because on June 25 I decided to write this article and contacted Best Buy's public relations team to give them a chance to comment.

I described the situation, mentioned that I had just filed a complaint with the FTC, and asked why it would take even 10 business days to stop spam e-mails or two to four weeks to delete an account.

"These are things that corporations with modern, functioning computer systems should be able to accomplish in seconds," I wrote. "I would be interested in learning the technical details of the system you are using so we can figure out what the problem is."

It's a common tale of woe. The author of TFA only got the spam to stop because of the PR hit he promised to land at Best Buy's feet. CAN-SPAM hasn't stopped them. What can, if you're not a journalist?


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by dltaylor on Saturday July 18 2015, @09:24AM

    by dltaylor (4693) on Saturday July 18 2015, @09:24AM (#210730)

    You gave BestBuy the address and established a business relationship, which, in the USofA makes it legal for them to send you emails.

    Now you're shocked that they used it, which anyone with enough functional brain cells to form a synapse would have expect!?

    Why would they give up that usage? You are obviously a customer, and might be tempted back into the store (physical and/or virtual) by some form of promotion.

    If you don't want promotional emails from a company with which you do business, give them a throwaway address to be deleted as soon as it is no longer needed for initial purchase tracking. You got your own domain, so you can generate and delete them at will.

    "What a maroon!", to quote an old cartoon.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @10:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @10:44AM (#210744)

    You sound like a sociopath: others only exist for exploitation.

    • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Saturday July 18 2015, @03:01PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Saturday July 18 2015, @03:01PM (#210790) Journal

      Hate to say, but welcome to USA! Land of cognitive dissonance, home of the sociopaths! Don't give me that do goody good bullshit. I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set, and I think I need a Lear jet!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @10:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @10:54PM (#210892)
      Corporations are sociopathic; they exist only to make profit, generally by exploiting people and other corporations. This includes going beyond what is legal and continuing to whatever behavior increases profit without being punished. The person you replied to just sounds like they were saying "expect a duck to quack".
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @11:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @11:30AM (#210748)

    Funny, that's usually the kind of logic a criminal would have if they manage to get a hold of your credit card details to justify maxing out your card.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Bill Dimm on Saturday July 18 2015, @01:14PM

    by Bill Dimm (940) on Saturday July 18 2015, @01:14PM (#210767)

    You really didn't read the article, did you (granted, the SoylentNews summary doesn't make this very clear)? The CAN-SPAM act requires such emails to have an unsubscribe link that works (i.e., stops the emails within 10 business days). He tried repeatedly to unsubscribe, contacted people at the company who claimed he had been unsubscribed, but the emails kept coming daily.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2015, @01:16AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2015, @01:16AM (#210921)

      In that case he should do the only thing he can do: Submit every single one of those mails to a place like Spamcop and eventually they will get blocked for spamming via an RBL. They aren't obeying the CAN-SPAM rules, regardless of who they are that should result (in theory, as long as its reported... HINT HINT...) in the domain being blacklisted and not being able to send mail anymore. Thats how this system is going to work, not through legislation, fines, or laws. Self policing of the internet is the only way. RBL providers like Spamcop and Spamhaus should be informed of BestBuy's emails and eventually they should be blacklisted.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Nollij on Sunday July 19 2015, @06:16PM

      by Nollij (4559) on Sunday July 19 2015, @06:16PM (#211142)

      I had the same (or even worse) problem with Dell.
      Contacted them to get a quote for a custom build (for a customer). They subscribed me, without ever asking me, to all of their marketing lists. I know, because it was registered to the salesman's name.

      The only thing that worked was to change my e-mail address in their system to something I didn't use. I forget it I used example.com, or something like mailinator.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @07:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 18 2015, @07:35PM (#210849)

    You gave BestBuy the address and established a business relationship, which, in the USofA makes it legal for them to send you emails.

    But the CAN-SPAM act also says they have to provide a working "unsubscribe" link. If it takes 4 weeks to unsubscribe something is wrong.....