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posted by janrinok on Sunday October 25 2015, @05:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the return-of-feudalism dept.

Common Dreams reports

The world's richest 1 percent now own more wealth than [the remaining] 99 percent combined. This finding comes from Credit Suisse's Global Wealth Report for 2015, [redirects to a PDF] released last week. Last year, Credit Suisse found the richest 1 percent of adults owned 48 percent of global wealth. According to the new report, the [richest] 1 percent now hold 50.4 percent of all the world's household wealth.

Credit Suisse's findings are in line with Oxfam's prediction that global wealth inequality is only becoming greater. Last January, we predicted that the richest 1 percent would capture more than half of all household wealth by 2016. It looks like our prediction was right, but that we were too conservative, since it has happened a year early. Alas, our forecast was confirmed, but it's nothing to celebrate.

When you look at the very top of the global wealth pyramid, the situation is much more alarming. When we first calculated in January 2014, the 85 richest individuals own more wealth than the poorest half of the planet. This trend has also worsened since that time. Last January, it was down to 80 people.

The implications of rising extreme wealth inequality are greatly worrying. The highly unbalanced concentration of economic resources in the hands of fewer and fewer people impacts social stability within countries and threatens security on a global scale. It makes poverty reduction harder, threatens political inclusion, and compounds other inequalities.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:28AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:28AM (#254255) Journal

    Here, in the US, we have serious comprehension problems with taxes. The left and the right bicker about taxation. They talk about taxing the rich, but everyone on both sides know that the "rich" don't pay taxes at all. Their assets are off shore, in carefully structured holding companies, virtually untouchable by any single government.

    The controversy seems to always come back to some level of wealth, that doesn't even approach these wealthiest individuals in the world. Income of $250,000 a year? That's nothing. People who are mere multi-millionaires aren't even part of the discussion, in all seriousness. There are individuals in this world who could feed the ten most impoverished nations on earth, indefinitely, out of pocket change. There are somewhat less wealthy families that could do the same.

    Millionnaires are generally just successful business people. Those are most definitely NOT the evil rulers of the world.

    I truly wish that we could all get our heads on straight, and begin to understand what the "ruling class" really is, and that it's all of us, against them.

    The ultra-wealthy really needs to be brought to heel. Those are the people who are pushing globalization, one world economy, and world government. You can bet your arse that if/when all that comes to pass, they'll be sitting at the top of the pyramid, running everything with an iron fist.

    And - for what purpose?

    Personally, I might go along with a one world government, if there were some real goal. Say they were working on colonizing the solar system, with plans to spread beyond the solar system. If they were harnessing mankind's assets for some such lofty goal, I might acquiesce to their demands.

    In reality, these people continue to acquire wealth for their own personal benefit.

    Just how much more benefit can they possibly get? There really is nothing more, once you own a dozen huge sprawling mansions, a couple yachts, and some private jets. What more is there?

    It's all about POWER. You and I will live and work and play at the whim of those most powerful individuals. Power - he snaps his fingers, and thousands die around the world.

    We are chumps and fools for having allowed these people to acquire so much wealth. We are all owned, to greater and lesser degrees.

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  • (Score: 4, Disagree) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:48AM

    by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:48AM (#254258)

    Yes.

    But what I find interesting is that people think that this is somehow unique in the 10k of recorded human history...

    Face it. This is what humans are.

    The only solution is to cease being human.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:33AM

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:33AM (#254266)

      Fear, the ultimate and illogical motivator of all greed and power-grabbing, is a bestial thing. Acting for the benefit of others is a very human thing. For example: Astronauts risk life and limb in the pursuit of knowledge, working to overcome their own fears, for a greater purpose, on a regular basis. So I think you are wrong. The only solution to greed is to BE human, and NOT be an animal motivated only by selfish fear.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:38AM

        by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:38AM (#254270)

        This is a lie hollywood tells you to make you feel better.

        Look around. What you describe is the exception.

        I am talking averages here, not outliers.

        I am being a realist here, not a delusional optimist...

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:40AM

          by linkdude64 (5482) on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:40AM (#254285)

          I formulated my delusional comment around your delusional comment. Now you have moved from the delusional stance of "This is what humans are" to the more reasonable stance of "This is what *many* humans are," a big step. So the real question here is not, "How do we stop being human?" It's "Where did those outliers come from, and how do we work to improve human behavior?" I have an idea: Books. No, ISIS doesn't want to read books and is not curious to learn, but I would wager that every child is curious and not inherently biased. They need books. Hollywood sells hope, but Hollywood did not invent hope. Hollywood did not invent charity, Hollywood did not invent knowledge, nor generosity, people did.

          • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:29PM

            by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:29PM (#254410)

            Nope.

            When describing populations that is exactly how you proceed.

            Your method is called cherry picking.

            The current and past state of the world agrees with me.

            QED on my point.

            I completely agree with your idealistic goal for humanity (despite what you may think I am an idealist at heart) but that is an asperational discussion about transforming default human nature into something other than that.

            In other words become something other than human...the thing we currently are.

            Again. QED.

            • (Score: 1) by linkdude64 on Monday October 26 2015, @02:16AM

              by linkdude64 (5482) on Monday October 26 2015, @02:16AM (#254494)

              Citing the objective existence of generosity to disprove a black and white statement is cherry picking? I think our operational definition of the word "Human" is what's creating the miscommunication here, and we can't be referring to biology alone, as we are biologically geared to be social creatures. So, claiming to understand with certainty, the "Default" behavior of human nature is a very intriguing thing to me, so please do go on, Euthyphro.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mmcmonster on Sunday October 25 2015, @03:05PM

          by mmcmonster (401) on Sunday October 25 2015, @03:05PM (#254353)

          Let me look at the people around me. They all make $100k/year. I would guess that most make $50k/year.

          They all donate to the local food drives and when someone is properly sick (cancer, broken bones, etc.) they make sure they have a little extra money or whatever support they need to get by.

          That is being human.

          I don't begrudge the hard working who manages to make enough to retire early. The 'millionaire next door'. We all work hard to be that person. In fact, I'm kinda there already. Working to have a better retirement and secure my children's education and well being.

          The multi-billionaires are different. The drive that makes the mega-billionaire makes them less human as well.

          At some point it's not only too much, but it's too much by orders of magnitude.

          • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:27PM

            by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:27PM (#254409)

            You would be wrong. While the AVERAGE wage is 50k, the MEDIAN wage (the one that counts) is $27k. For those that struggle with stats that means half of the US makes that or less...while the average just means the total money/number of people: a meaningless figure in this discussion.

            This does not change the point - actually the difference brings it home. The wealthy sit at the top insulated from reality while the rest just have to put up with it,

            In a 1st world country you tend to be able to put your head up your arse about it because the water level is so high that even the meager amount that trickles down for the middle class is enough to pay the food bill++. But that is more to do with technology.

            Any time that water level drops, say due to disaster, you will quickly see how much like a a 3rd world country your economic system is. (e.g briefly during Katrina)

            • (Score: 2) by mmcmonster on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:09PM

              by mmcmonster (401) on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:09PM (#254420)

              I do agree that the mean income in the US sucks quite badly. The only reason the standard of living in the US hasn't fallen significantly in the last 40 years is that in most couples now both the husband and wife work full time.

              Now, couple that with the higher incidence of divorce compared to 40 years ago, and you can see that the country is in for a world of hurt. It would explain the communal living situations that so many people in their 20s and 30s are getting into. Having roommates in their 30s, getting divorced but still living under the same roof for convenience/cost issues, moving back in with their parents making multi-generational households.

              Frankly the only out I see is taxing the super-rich more and using the money to give a baseline income for everyone.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @10:37PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @10:37PM (#254453)

              > Any time that water level drops, say due to disaster, you will quickly see how much like a a 3rd world country your economic system is. (e.g briefly during Katrina)

              Katrina is the perfect example. All the reporting on the news about mobs, looting and murders was 99% bullshit. [ajrarchive.org] The reality of Katrina was regular people coming together to selflessly help regular people to get through a disaster. Turns out that's what happens in practically every disaster - you might remember all the people rushing to the twin towers on 9/11.

              When your own example disprove your theories, its time to dig a little deeper.

              • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Monday October 26 2015, @05:10AM

                by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Monday October 26 2015, @05:10AM (#254534)

                But what was your govt and police response? What did those in power do?

                How many people died when they did not need to? What was the rebuild like?

                And 911 was an international disaster that was used to the fullest to promote even more evil in the middle east.

                Not sure why that disproves anything...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by hash14 on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:13PM

        by hash14 (1102) on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:13PM (#254335)

        I think your average humans are normal people.

        I think the problem is that the ones who grab power are inherently evil. Some are evil before they acquire that power, others are simply corrupted by it once they have it. And bear in mind that wealth is power (or at least one form of it).

        The reason they win is because humans simply aren't good at working together on the scales that we need to in order take out these powerful figures. We don't vote for sensible laws and policies, we don't educate each other very well (or think independently), and we sure as hell don't assemble in masses that are sufficient to take that power back.

        So that's why a few evil people will always win out over a community of relatively good people. We wait until it's too late and then it's all gone to hell.

        • (Score: 2) by Murdoc on Monday October 26 2015, @01:34AM

          by Murdoc (2518) on Monday October 26 2015, @01:34AM (#254478)

          That's a bit too cynical I think, but I can see how it is easy to come to that conclusion. The fact is that our largest and most advanced societies are much better than most of the ones in history, the kingdoms and dictatorships and empires. We have more freedoms, and a greater standard of living than ever before. It's not just because of technology, but also because of social support. I think that we are capable of working together on these large scales. The problems we are encountering today are not due to inherent human traits, it's the economic system we use: it rewards bad behaviour with wealth and, as you say, that grants power. We have laws to try and prevent and catch crime, but that only catches the criminals that aren't good enough. It's like how antibiotics "create" better diseases; if you don't wipe it out the first time, those that survive create more. Except in the case of criminals they don't necessarily make more criminals, just more wealth so that they become stronger and better able to commit crimes. Become wealthy and powerful enough, and you can influence the laws and the law-enforcement to make you even harder to stop. It's the system's fault, not human nature. The fact that so many humans still manage to find the time and resources to do good things despite being penalized for it shows us what human nature is really about. What we need is a new form of economics that rewards good behaviour instead of bad behaviour. Then people will adjust to that and things will be much better.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Murdoc on Monday October 26 2015, @01:25AM

        by Murdoc (2518) on Monday October 26 2015, @01:25AM (#254475)

        You are so right here. Human beings are capable of greater levels of cooperation and charity than any other animal. Part of that is due to our intelligence, but just being smart doesn't mean that you'll cooperate well. We could all be very cunning in our backstabbing each other, and yet we have created large nations and even groups of nations that are capable of providing aid to other groups and nations. No other animal does this. Sure, we have lots of bad behaviour going on, but that's because we are continuing to use an economic system that rewards bad behaviour. Crime pays, as long as you can get away with it. The law just catches the criminals that aren't good enough, so the ones that are get rewarded with wealth and power. With enough wealth and power you can manipulate the laws and law-enforcement to make you even harder to catch (do CEOs or corporations go to jail?). If we could use a different system that didn't reward bad behaviour, and rewarded good behaviour instead, humans would adjust to that, and our natural abilities to be "good" would flourish.

        In fact, the fact that we live in such system that rewards bad behaviour and penalizes good behaviour (volunteers and those that give to charity lose wealth and therefore power as well), and many people still manage to be good (look at all the volunteers and those that give to charity; heck, even open source programmers are a great example of this), is a testament to the very "human" quality we have to try to be good. And there is good reason for that: Being good creates better societies, which in turn give a better standard of living. Do you think we'd have charity and social programs if we were living in a dictatorship?

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:22AM

      by frojack (1554) on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:22AM (#254277) Journal

      Came here to say the same thing.

      It has always been thus. The difference today, is that the definition of wealth does not include other people as slaves.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:09PM

        by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:09PM (#254404)

        That is because economic research has shown that low wage slavery is far more efficient that an owner having to pay for their upkeep.

        They can also wash their hands of their treatment...

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Francis on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:29AM

      by Francis (5544) on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:29AM (#254280)

      At least in the US we largely had the problem solved. We had a high tax rate on income and a lower tax on capital gains. The result was that rather than trying to amass so much money that they literally couldn't spend it all, the way to maximize their wealth involved giving back to the community and actually investing in the companies they owned. The end result was that things were better for most people and the rich were still rich enough that they didn't have to work.

      A lot of the thievery and fraud that have come to characterize the current era didn't happen back then because there wasn't as much of an incentive to. It still happened, it would be stupid to argue otherwise, but there were limits to how much incentive there was to engage in that sort of thing.

      Then you had 30 years of conservative economic policy under Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush and the situation changed drastically. The wealth was allowed to flow up to the richest people unabated and the politicians were proud of it. Because it's clearly the supply side that dictates economic growth and not the demand side. And clearly the rich will buy more things just because we need them to in order to keep the economy growing rather than look for investments overseas.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @09:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @09:49AM (#254295)

        This is getting hilarious already.
        How many more years of blaming the previous guy, before true-believers allow themselves to see their darling figurehead is a lying bag of it?
        As long as the bosses on "your" side of the fake divide get a free pass on anything and everything, just for the lip-service - it will be getting worse. No incentive for them to improve anything, except the wording of lies.

      • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:31PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:31PM (#254337) Journal

        Then you had 30 years of conservative economic policy under Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush and the situation changed drastically.

        You know what else you had? 60 years of labor competition from the developing world. You need to know what the actual problems are first before casting blame. Non-conservative economic policy would still end up in the same situation.

        • (Score: 1) by Francis on Sunday October 25 2015, @05:20PM

          by Francis (5544) on Sunday October 25 2015, @05:20PM (#254379)

          That's an excuse. Yes, the margin would have narrowed no matter what economic policy we took, but it's completely ridiculous to suggest that it would have happened this quickly or to this extent with competent economic policy. Not to mention that the quality of life would have sunk this low.

          You see it all over the place, businesses that run themselves out of business because they're chasing next quarter's ratings rather than worrying about what happens years down the road. Companies that spend ridiculous amounts of money on extra employees because they're too cheap to pay a wage that would retain the ones that they had long enough for them to get good at their jobs.

          Why should any employee work to improve the productivity of the company when they aren't going to receive a raise or really any other benefit? And that's the nub of it. The people who have an incentive to improve the efficiency are too incompetent and greedy to do it and the ones that can have no incentive to. Self-satisfaction and pride in ones work do not put food on the table.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 25 2015, @05:58PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 25 2015, @05:58PM (#254383) Journal

            That's an excuse. Yes, the margin would have narrowed no matter what economic policy we took, but it's completely ridiculous to suggest that it would have happened this quickly or to this extent with competent economic policy. Not to mention that the quality of life would have sunk this low.

            There are two things to note. First, I don't buy that the US has "conservative economic policy". The US government wouldn't owe over 70% of the country's GDP in publicly held debt, if that were true.

            Second, there's been a lot of wriggling on the hook without any net gain and a huge bunch of policies that claimed to "create jobs" or reduce income inequality when they actually do the opposite. My view is that laissez faire would be better than virtually all efforts to address wage drops, income inequality, or anything else of that nature. There is a certain futility to any economic policy other than laissez faire, namely, that it interferes with the actions of people who simply put, are more competent and knowing than the policy makers.

            You see it all over the place, businesses that run themselves out of business because they're chasing next quarter's ratings rather than worrying about what happens years down the road. Companies that spend ridiculous amounts of money on extra employees because they're too cheap to pay a wage that would retain the ones that they had long enough for them to get good at their jobs.

            Such a process normally is destructive. We should ask ourselves what incentives are in play to reward such widespread behavior? The answer is that we have labored for around a century to eliminate risk, the harm from bad events, and the negative outcomes from making poor choices. The result is as you state above, a business environment which rewards short term thinkers.

      • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:12PM

        by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:12PM (#254405)

        You mean NEO-conservative policy which is an oxymoron with a heavy emphasis on the moron part.

        Regan began the borrowing tsunami and it has continued thusly.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @10:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @10:57AM (#254303)

      The first 99% of that recorded history has a vastly different socio-political landscape to what we have today. Before the rise of 20th century societies, we didn't have universal education, accessible mass communications and overabundance of basic necessities. Modern humans in western societies don't sit at the bottom of Marslow's pyramid, to trivially equate their organizational capabilities to those who were is extremely naive.

      Mark my words, the 21st century will likely see significant changes in social order under the pressure of the capabilities computing put in people's hands, just like the 20th century saw massive changes in the face of widespread industrialization and the 19th century saw in the face of novel forms of state and military organization.

    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Sunday October 25 2015, @12:11PM

      by darkfeline (1030) on Sunday October 25 2015, @12:11PM (#254318) Homepage

      I tried not being human once. It was great.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 26 2015, @10:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 26 2015, @10:39AM (#254611)

        furfag.

    • (Score: 1) by Bobs on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:45PM

      by Bobs (1462) on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:45PM (#254347)

      Face it. This is what humans are.

      that is a great attitude!

      Other times people have shared this attitude (USA-centric):

      • 5 years ago, gay people cannot marry.
      • 30 years ago, whites rule South Africa.
      • 50 years ago, in the US: Blacks and whites are different: They cannot not marry, sit together or use the same drinking fountain.
      • 90 years ago, the government cannot not provide health care, unemployment income, elderly care, ensure bank deposits or regulate financial markets.
      • 250 years ago, people cannot rule them selves: they need noblity to control them
      • 800 years ago, nobles cannot govern, people need a king to control them.
      • 2,000 years ago and many time since, peaceful revolutions cannot succeed: you need violence to make change.

      Saying you are powerless to affect change is a poor, uninformed decision and is giving up and accepting the status quo. It may feel easier but it doesn't make it right or true.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:18PM

        by frojack (1554) on Sunday October 25 2015, @06:18PM (#254394) Journal

        Yes yes, nice rant.

        But you've done nothing to disprove the statement that wealth has always been concentrated into the hands of a minority.
        In fact, you've pretty well proven the OP's point. Not sure if that is where you thought you were going.

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      • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:20PM

        by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:20PM (#254406)

        Nice straw man, but you have missed the point.

        Last 50 years: Corporate influenced governments with wealth in the hands of individuals
        before that: robber barons and industrialists
        before that: Monarchs, royalty of various flavours and the rise of the merchant class
        before that: Monarchs and tribal leaders
        Before that: damn dirty apes...

        This was about the wealthy/privileged few being at the top shitting down on a population of the ignorant many.

        TECHNOLOGY may have may the lot of the many better, but that does not change the pattern.

        And anywhere resources dry up, climate changes or war breaks or whatever such there is not enough to go around you will see very quickly how similar a 1st world country is to a 3rd world country. (eg. briefly during Katrina)

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by VortexCortex on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:31AM

    by VortexCortex (4067) on Sunday October 25 2015, @08:31AM (#254281)

    Just how much more benefit can they possibly get? There really is nothing more, once you own a dozen huge sprawling mansions, a couple yachts, and some private jets. What more is there?

    You can become a god.

    I wasn't going to reply, but since you asked: What you need next is a great disaster. Let's start with importing a bunch of cheap foreign labor to prop up the local debt-based currencies. Next create strife, promote infighting, etc. When the bubble pops the people will fight amongst themselves. Always rationalize this with the delusional "climate change" and "carbon pollution" narratives so the evils seem necessary to fix the "overpopulation problem".

    When there's enough strain on the system, have another world war. For the first time in human history we have the capability to reduce the entire civilization back to the stone age (minus the very top elite). After just a few generations the technological wonders of today will be on par with legends of sorcery. The elites who survived and secreted away the means to rebuild and advance our modern society will then emerge with what seems like god like powers to the newly primitive peoples of Earth.

    What's interesting to me is the re-purposing of not-so advanced water screen displays [youtu.be] into the not-so-secret [youtube.com] cloud-projection technology. [youtube.com] With which one could actually appear to the people as a larger than life deity from on high. [archive.is]

    Through continued the use of planned disasters elites can then keep the population reduced to what they see as manageable, and keep the technological level of the populace at non threatening levels. After all, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

    Hey, if you don't want to know, you shouldn't ask.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday October 25 2015, @09:30AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 25 2015, @09:30AM (#254293) Journal

      DING DING DING DING DING! We have another winnning post! VortexCortex wins the internet today. Power. How much power is enough? Well - some of us want to be gods.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by iwoloschin on Sunday October 25 2015, @01:02PM

      by iwoloschin (3863) on Sunday October 25 2015, @01:02PM (#254328)

      For the first time in human history we have the capability to reduce the entire civilization back to the stone age (minus the very top elite).

      Uh, it's pretty much all or nothing. Those few elite folks can't maintain their standard of living by themselves. Like it or not, a single "elite" family has an enormous supply chain that is literally impossible to maintain without significant middle class labor. If the middle class gets blasted back into the stone age there's no way the elite are going to survive unscathed, even if they have doomsday bunkers that are equipped to last for decades or centuries.

      • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:27PM

        by mhajicek (51) on Sunday October 25 2015, @02:27PM (#254336)

        The middle class is being replaced with automation.

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      • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Monday October 26 2015, @05:03AM

        by Whoever (4524) on Monday October 26 2015, @05:03AM (#254532) Journal

        If the middle class gets blasted back into the stone age there's no way the elite are going to survive unscathed, even if they have doomsday bunkers that are equipped to last for decades or centuries.

        I think that the elite don't (for the most part) have the forethought to see that. Most of the elite didn't get that way through intelligence, they got that way because they are sociopaths.

    • (Score: 2) by Hyperturtle on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:58PM

      by Hyperturtle (2824) on Sunday October 25 2015, @07:58PM (#254417)

      For some reason, it sounds like you described the end times of the Roman Empire, but described a modern Western Civilization instead. Weren't they the Western civilization of their era?

      Perhaps they couldn't project a deity in the sky with the tools they had at the time, but their demise did come about around the same time as the importation of slave labor, reducing the value of their citizens, they had numerous wars that stretched them thin and served to reduce enlistable population otherwise out of a job, and it lastly was in a steep decline around the same time of the heralding of an important new religion.

      Well, we just had an article a few days back about rich people digging vaults. I look forward to seeing which one emerges as a god, so I know who to worship until they can be brought down, provided I don't manage to succumb to the zombie infection prior to the great opening of the vaults of our deity overlords. If we do survive, I make a good macguyver, so any sane people left are welcome to team up with me to bring down the false gods of the new era. Although it'd be just our luck if zombie gods emerged.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @04:40PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 25 2015, @04:40PM (#254371)

    You want to know why there is so much income inequality? Let me give you an example. Here is a post I put on Techdirt

    "
    "The error here is in thinking that property rights are in the interest of the public. They're not, they're in the interests of the owners."

    Not always. Sometimes property rights are taken, maliciously, by government in the interest of corporations. Take for example the oil companies (this was here in the U.S.). I knew someone that owned property and later oil was found below it. The government confiscated the owners property and all of the neighboring property taking property away from many people under eminent domain to give that property over to oil companies. The oil companies compensated the landowners three times the value of the property before oil was found on it (a pittance of what the property was worth after oil was found on it). Many of the previous landowners fought this in court and lost. The government & industry got to take their property against their will in exchange for a small fraction of what it was worth. Thieves. You want to know why gas prices are so high? You want to know why a few multi-billion dollar corporations own all the important natural resources? Because they stole it and they continue to steal it (eminent domain). If someone finds natural resources the government will steal it from the owners, under eminent domain laws, to give it to incumbent corporations and private interests and compensate the owners a small fraction of its value. So that individuals can't extract the oil and natural resources themselves, sell it on the market, and drive prices down. This lets a small handful of businesses control the market.

    Sorry this is off topic but another thing is big pharma talks about the high cost of drug development due to R&D failure rates. What they don't tell you is how much the burden of failures is carried by small, independent, companies and how the incumbent pharma companies only buy out promising companies and drugs after R&D has shown they have potential. So the incumbents don't take on much of the risks of failures, they lets independents do that, and then they buy out the most promising ones. This prevents newcomers from entering the market and allows incumbents to maintain their dominance. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that (well, unless there is some possible back door dealing between incumbents and the FDA whereby the FDA/incumbent complex will threaten a newcomer that if they don't sell then their drug will likely not get approval, which is very possible) but it does make their cries about expensive R&D costs less valid when they aren't the ones usually bearing the burden.

    On top of that the oil and electric companies often get special tax breaks.
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    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151013/10570532526/att-lawyers-want-you-to-know-that-atts-ceo-will-never-listen-to-customer-suggestions.shtml [techdirt.com]

    A bunch of different landowners owning valuable land with valuable natural resources and selling it on the free market will naturally result in a lot less income inequality than just having a very few individuals own almost all of the natural resources that they got confiscated through eminent domain laws.