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posted by martyb on Friday October 30 2015, @03:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the taking-stock dept.

Bob Lutz, car-guy-to-the-max, former VP of GM and Chrysler, with time at BMW before that, wrote this recent article --
    http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a26859/bob-lutz-tesla/

The opening paragraph is gloomy:

Tesla's showing all the signs of a company in trouble: bleeding cash, securitized assets, and mounting inventory. It's the trifecta of doom for any automaker, and anyone paying attention probably saw this coming a mile away. Like most big puzzles, the company's woes don't have just one source.

and the prognosis goes downhill from there mentioning competition from Audi, the lack of enough dealers to attract more buyers and other problems.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by SanityCheck on Friday October 30 2015, @04:07PM

    by SanityCheck (5190) on Friday October 30 2015, @04:07PM (#256518)

    You may be right, but I rather not have that happen. See I want a fuckin' car, not an Ad-laden, piece of spyware on 4 wheels. If neither one touches Tesla, I will be very very happy.

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  • (Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Friday October 30 2015, @05:19PM

    by BasilBrush (3994) on Friday October 30 2015, @05:19PM (#256553)

    Well that's only an argument against Google. But I wouldn't want to see Apple buy them either. Because it'll be far more interesting to have Tesla and Apple as competitors, seeking to outdo each other.

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    • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Friday October 30 2015, @05:37PM

      by SanityCheck (5190) on Friday October 30 2015, @05:37PM (#256564)

      Well let me write an argument more tailored towards Apple:
      "Siri, please navigate me to nearest McDonalds"
      "I'm sorry, I cannot do that as you have not subscribed to google Navigation"

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by BasilBrush on Friday October 30 2015, @06:31PM

        by BasilBrush (3994) on Friday October 30 2015, @06:31PM (#256594)

        Why would Apple care if you're subscribed to Google Navigation.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by urza9814 on Friday October 30 2015, @05:51PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Friday October 30 2015, @05:51PM (#256574) Journal

      You may be right, but I rather not have that happen. See I want a fuckin' car, not an Ad-laden, piece of spyware on 4 wheels. If neither one touches Tesla, I will be very very happy.

      Well that's only an argument against Google.

      Really? [apple.com]

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by BasilBrush on Friday October 30 2015, @06:29PM

        by BasilBrush (3994) on Friday October 30 2015, @06:29PM (#256592)

        Yes really. Apple has iAd as a tiny part of what they do. Google is a company who's entire business is advertising.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by novak on Friday October 30 2015, @08:26PM

      by novak (4683) on Friday October 30 2015, @08:26PM (#256643) Homepage

      I also wouldn't want an apple product because I hate the walled garden. If you think it's not a big deal, look at how fast software updates bog down and kill an iphone. Now imagine this happening to your ~three-year old ~$50k car.

      I really can't imagine buying a something as much of a long-term investment like a car from companies as notoriously unreliable and user-hostile as google or apple with their planned obsolescence and constant change for change's sake.

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      • (Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Saturday October 31 2015, @10:20AM

        by BasilBrush (3994) on Saturday October 31 2015, @10:20AM (#256847)

        look at how fast software updates bog down and kill an iphone.

        They don't tend to. It was a problem once, with the 4s or the 3gs or something. But generally not a problem. It's more of a thing with PCs.

        I'm afraid if you think Apple is unreliable and user hostile, you are just plain wrong. Apple consistently gets the highest customer satisfaction scores in the industry.

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        • (Score: 2) by novak on Monday November 02 2015, @01:46AM

          by novak (4683) on Monday November 02 2015, @01:46AM (#257333) Homepage

          It's more of a thing with PCs.

          Ah... No. A five year old desktop is still completely functional and overpowered for most applications (not high end gaming, photo editing, HPC, but most stuff). And most of those PCs could easily be upgraded cheaply to do at least some higher end functions.

          Apple consistently gets the highest customer satisfaction scores in the industry.

          So 99% of the industry is crap. I don't especially mean the hardware industry- but Apple isn't just in the hardware industry, and their hardware doesn't play with any other software. To me, that's already user hostile. On top of that, Apple's software lately has been floundering, to say the least. I've never been impressed by their UIs (unlike many, admittedly) but lately they've been packing in even more eyecandy for zero benefit. That's the definition of "change for change's sake," and what broke some of the old iphones, if I recall. I suppose Apple is less user hostile than google and microsoft, if that's what you're arguing.

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