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posted by martyb on Saturday October 31 2015, @07:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the Do!-Not!-Want! dept.

Ben Funk over on TechReport has linked to a Terry Myerson blog post where he states that in early 2016, the "Windows 10 Upgrade" update will be changed in status from "Optional" to "Recommended". Therefore, if you haven't changed your Windows 7 system from automatically installing updates to manually notifying, but not installing, now is a good time to make that change, and audit every single "patch" you see. There have already been reports of users unknowingly experiencing ISP bandwidth overages due to downloading a massive 3 GB file due to the "Optional" update that was not requested, but Microsoft seems to be throwing caution to the winds.

In the blog post, Myerson has this statement: "Depending upon your Windows Update settings, this may cause the upgrade process to automatically initiate on your device. Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose whether or not to continue. And of course, if you choose to upgrade (our recommendation!), then you will have 31 days to roll back to your previous Windows version if you don't love it." Historically, Windows has been far cleaner to install on a blank disk than to upgrade in place, so this sounds like a recipe for many support calls. There also seems to be no backtracking on any of the privacy concerns, or perhaps taking the "zero telemetry, selective update install" functionality promised (but not yet delivered) to Enterprise customers, and extending it to consumer licensees who value their privacy.


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Dunbal on Saturday October 31 2015, @01:18PM

    by Dunbal (3515) on Saturday October 31 2015, @01:18PM (#256878)

    Not according to my daughter. Since she's a Microsoft employee in a management position I think I'll trust her word over yours. It's "free" for a year.

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  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday October 31 2015, @04:05PM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 31 2015, @04:05PM (#256909)
    If that's true aren't you risking her job by violating her NDA?
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @08:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @08:20PM (#256980)

      What makes you think there is an NDA on already launched products?

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday October 31 2015, @10:11PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 31 2015, @10:11PM (#257007)
        If he's talking about MS's unannounced plans, then yes, there certainly is an NDA.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @08:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @08:26PM (#256981)

      By saying that some unspecified daughter of his told him all this? How are they going to magically figure out her identity?

      And NDAs should be completely unenforceable.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday November 01 2015, @03:33AM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 01 2015, @03:33AM (#257083)
        Why should all NDAs be unenforceable?
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @01:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @01:44AM (#258614)

        If they can match his SoylentNews account to his real identity, and if he only has one daughter that works for Microsoft, then it probably won't be difficult.

        But I think he is either talking out of his ass, or his daughter is mistaken. Microsoft probably have thousands of employees in management positions, and I doubt all of them know the future plans that haven't been publicly disclosed.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @04:06PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 31 2015, @04:06PM (#256910)

    When do the subscription costs start? 1 year after the install or 1 year after the 1st day of the release and option to accept the offer?

  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday October 31 2015, @09:32PM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Saturday October 31 2015, @09:32PM (#256997) Homepage

    It's not my word; it's every pronouncement Microsoft has made on the subject so far.

    This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost.

    - Terry Myerson, Executive Vice President of the Windows and Devices Group, Microsoft.

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    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Sunday November 01 2015, @02:30AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Sunday November 01 2015, @02:30AM (#257077) Homepage

      And how are they defining the "supported lifetime of the device" ??

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday November 02 2015, @05:10PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday November 02 2015, @05:10PM (#257594) Journal

        I would say probably as long as the "Limited Warranty" is good for your device, so maybe 3 years.

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        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday November 02 2015, @06:07PM

          by Reziac (2489) on Monday November 02 2015, @06:07PM (#257613) Homepage

          Probably a good guess. And therefore highly-variable, since devices have warranty spans of zilch to infinity.

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