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posted by janrinok on Wednesday November 04 2015, @08:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the virtual-travellers-next dept.

Australia is looking at trialling passport-less travel in a move Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop predicts will go global. The idea of cloud passports is the result of a hipster-style-hackathon held at the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), which culminated in an X-Factor style audition before the secretary Peter Varghese, Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop, Assistant Minister Steve Ciobo and Chris Vein from the World Bank.

Under a cloud passport, a traveller's identity and biometrics data would be stored in a cloud, so passengers would no longer need to carry their passports and risk having them lost or stolen. DFAT says 38,718 passports were registered as lost or stolen in 2014-15, consistent with the 38,689 reported missing the previous year.

Australia and New Zealand are now in discussions about trialling cloud passports. Ms Bishop acknowledged there were security requirements that would have to be met in order to store biometrics in the cloud, but told Fairfax Media: "We think it will go global."

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-to-trial-cloud-passports-in-worldfirst-move-20151028-gkkkr3.html

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 04 2015, @02:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 04 2015, @02:48PM (#258372)

    Exactly. Sounds to me like we just scrapped passports. Just use your driver ID... o_O

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday November 04 2015, @04:32PM

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday November 04 2015, @04:32PM (#258400)

    Technically you only need use "someone's" drivers license or ID card, not necessarily yours. This could get really weird WRT immigration. Policy is to issue IDs pretty much for the asking and punish violations after they are detected, if they punish at all. (Your state may vary).

    "So Mr. VLM your passport record indicates you entered the USA 50 times and never left ... explain yourself Mr VLM..." If we're going to gut the passport control system almost completely, at least admit it officially, as opposed to some stealth implementation under some BS technology project.

    Another oddity is you can generally use your passport as your photo ID. At least around here for certain purposes. So using a photo ID to get access to your passport to use it as a photo ID to ... this gets circular.

    Finally I've never seen a good explanation of why voter ID cards are free, drivers licenses which are physically identical other than the writing on them are $40, and passport renewal is $110. If everything is all cloudy and information shared and paperless office, they should all be free, right? For $110 I'd like a paper trinket, why not?

    I'm also a little confused about the passport card system, seeing as they're approximately useless for international travel, last time I checked. Maybe they've stopped offering them. They were issued by the passport people but were not "real" legal passports. Kinda weird, like the feds playing "just pretend".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @12:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @12:24AM (#258589)

      I'm also a little confused about the passport card system, seeing as they're approximately useless for international travel, last time I checked. Maybe they've stopped offering them. They were issued by the passport people but were not "real" legal passports. Kinda weird, like the feds playing "just pretend".

      (Assuming we're talking about the US ones...) They're useful to go to low risk areas. I think it's like Canada, maybe Mexico and Caribbean islands a cruise ship takes you to.

    • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Thursday November 05 2015, @02:25PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Thursday November 05 2015, @02:25PM (#258852) Journal

      I'm also a little confused about the passport card system, seeing as they're approximately useless for international travel, last time I checked. Maybe they've stopped offering them. They were issued by the passport people but were not "real" legal passports. Kinda weird, like the feds playing "just pretend".

      I think the idea with those was just to blur the borders a bit. So if you live in Buffalo, NY and you need to drive the two hours to Toronto every weekend for business or to see your family or whatever you don't have to carry the passport book around with you all the time. You can just stick the card in your wallet with your license and you'll always have it. But since they're also easier to lose and probably easier to counterfeit they won't get you much further than that.

      Some people need a passport just to drive to the other end of their street. Hell, there have been cases where people needed a passport to back out of their driveway! That's the kind of idiocy passport cards are probably designed for.