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As if they hadn't discredited the movement enough already, feminists are now reportedly attempting to collect scalps from notable men in tech. And they're not worried about little things like the sexual assault they report actually happening.
Feminists in tech have been staging attempted "honey traps" to frame prominent male software developers for sexual assault, according to explosive claims on the blog of Eric S. Raymond, a pioneer of the open source movement. In allegations that will rock the world of software development, prominent targets included Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel.
Raymond quoted excerpts from an online chat with a trusted source, who told him that the Ada Inititiative, a recently-discontinued feminist advocacy group in tech, was trying to "collect scalps" by concocting charges of attempted sexual assault against male software developers.
The source told Raymond that the "MO" of the feminists was to "get alone with the target, and then immediately report "attempted sexual assault." The source said he had stopped mentoring female developers over fears that they might fabricate such charges.
In before someone disbelieves the message because they dislike the messenger.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by mojo chan on Thursday November 05 2015, @10:01AM
act like a man
You are part of the problem. The high suicide rate among men is in no small part because of the pressure society puts on them to conform to ridiculous masculine stereotypes. Much like how women felt enormous pressure to find a husband before they were 30, settle down and have children back in the 1950s, modern men feel pressure to conform to ideals that make them depressed and suicidal.
Feminists want to help men deal with these problems. MRAs just blame feminists for not acting like women did in the 1950s, which they think would solve all their problems.
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(Score: 1, Flamebait) by cubancigar11 on Thursday November 05 2015, @11:52AM
Society doesn't put pressure on men to behave like men, society puts pressure men to behave like lap dogs to feminist women who want to act like men.
Okay so didn't read the article linked in my previous comment. Ignorance + misandry = male feminist.
Hahaha. This is the kind of bs male feminists spout by voluntarily undergoing through a brain-job. You couldn't be bothered to read anything MRAs say, but you will leap and slurp everything feminists say about MRAs.
(Score: 2) by mojo chan on Thursday November 05 2015, @12:39PM
Okay, so describe what "men acting like men" means.
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(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday November 05 2015, @01:58PM
Men acting like men means men acknowledging that there are differences between an average man and average woman and those differences are not going to go away unless eugenics is applied on a massive scale, and then accepting that no matter what they do, how they do, they are going to remain part of that group they were born into for as long as a sex-change operation is performed.
It is simple group theory. People bash out-groups. Logically, bashing men makes you disowned from the group of men. So if you bash men for being men, you invite others to call you 'not a man'.
This works for MRAs too. You know the number of times I have been told to 'man up' by feminists? As an MRA I want to take the definition of 'being a man' away from feminists and into the hands of those who actually have a penis. But then I get into arguments like this one.
And no, feminists are not fighting for equality for men, they are fighting for women and men are as disposable for them as men have been for everyone else for thousands of years. I don't care much about women as they have already too many people talking about them all day long, starting from neighbors right up to Presidents and Prime ministers. There are too many psychologically broken men who are in jail, on streets and in coffin that I am worried about.
And who said feminists want equality for men, again? That is retarded. I don't see any feminist talking about a father's right to raise his kid or a man's right to enjoy the non-animate fruits of his labor. I see them talking about responsibilities of a man even after his death, blaming him for being 'weak', 'not caring for his parents/people he left behind', 'Women have always been the primary victims of war', 'women provide a caring touch that men cannot', 'all men are rapists' etc. What was that... 'women rights are human rights?' No they are not, otherwise men would have them too. An ad campaign saying not all men are rapists had a couple of feminists mocking it on their Facebook page and writing an article about their own comments [independent.co.uk]. So to all male feminists, may be you are okay for being called a rapist, I don't like being treated like a criminal for being a man.
I mean I understand if people don't think about it if it doesn't effect them. I understand if women are feminists, they are not men and the only man they are ever going to worry about is already dancing around them. But to actively bad-mouth against those who are actually doing something about solving a human problem? That is nothing but hatred and unfortunately it is rampant against men.
Do I hate feminists? Do you hate someone who is waging a war against you? Do people in Afganistan hate America?
(Score: 2) by mojo chan on Thursday November 05 2015, @03:11PM
Men acting like men means men acknowledging that there are differences between an average man and average woman and those differences are not going to go away unless eugenics is applied on a massive scale, and then accepting that no matter what they do, how they do, they are going to remain part of that group they were born into for as long as a sex-change operation is performed.
That's the basic feminist position. Different, but equal.
You know the number of times I have been told to 'man up' by feminists? As an MRA I want to take the definition of 'being a man' away from feminists and into the hands of those who actually have a penis.
I'm a feminist and I have a penis. Why are you trying to exclude me? I'd never tell anyone to "man up", FWIW.
'all men are rapists'
You know this is a myth, right? It's a line from the fictional novel "The Women's Room", and is part of a debate in which one woman says it in anger after her daughter is raped, and another strongly disagrees with her. When elaborates that she isn't even talking about forced sexual contact, but making a more general point (I guess it's "raping the land", it doesn't mean some guy stuck his dick in the ground).
An ad campaign saying not all men are rapists had a couple of feminists mocking it on their Facebook page and writing an article about their own comments.
From the ad campaign: "I Booze With My Cousin, He Doesn't Misbehave With Me". Er, okay, we should congratulate the guy for not engaging in sexual assault and incest. It's a commercial campaign, not a grass roots movement, the signs are clearly photoshopped in later so it's not even clear that the models know what they are made to look like they are holding up... It really is deserving of strong criticism.
I don't like being treated like a criminal for being a man.
Please give an example of "being a man" that will result in you being treated like a criminal.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:12PM
I don't like being treated like a criminal for being a man.
Please give an example of "being a man" that will result in you being treated like a criminal.
Teaching elementary school as a man will get you treated like a criminal. By the parents, the other teachers, the administration, by pretty much everyone.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:36PM
You know, I have two choices: 1) You don't know women, just what feminists say what women are. 2) All the feminists I have talked to were trolling me when they said this to me.
Guess what, I really don't care what you put in (1) because I know that all the world is not out to get me and feminists really really believe that. I have heard it repeated in feminists circles of a lot of different countries. Along with the fact that only 10% (exactly 10, mind you) of rapes are reported in only *that* country because only *that* country promotes rape culture unlike every other country, and that all violence is male generated. All you have to do is go to twitter and follow #feminism tag. Or silently listen to any one of them for a longer period of time.
So no. It is you who give importance to feminist literature, and thanks for telling me that even there they mention such ridiculously poisonous thoughts.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:49PM
You know what? Fuck you. You are a definitely a male feminist. You have so much hatred for men that saying a man is innocent is troubling you. Seriously, you are mental. See a doctor. And don't talk to me again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:46PM
The high suicide rate among men is in no small part because of the pressure society puts on them to conform to ridiculous masculine stereotypes.
These so called "ridiculous stereotypes" also known as natural male behavior to the mentally healthy. There is not a single culture in the entirety of human history where masculinity wasn't natural for males, regardless of the disconnect between that culture from other human cultures.
Sorry cultural marxists, but human gender dimorphism is real and it will be real regardless of how deep you bury your collective heads in the sand.
Feminists want to help men deal with these problems.
No. Feminists of the radical-progressive persuasion want to help men with problems that these feminists think males should have, while completely disregarding the problems that males want to talk about.
MRAs just blame feminists for not acting like women did in the 1950s
Slanderous lies. I'm not an MRA, so I'll let MRA activist Karen Straughan [youtube.com] speak for the movement.