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Today, Red Hat and Microsoft announced a partnership to provide greater choice and flexibility deploying Red Hat solutions on Microsoft Azure. As a key component of today’s announcement, Microsoft is offering Red Hat Enterprise Linux as the preferred choice for enterprise Linux workloads on Microsoft Azure. Another area of the partnership is in expanding the use of .NET in Red Hat's products, including the OpenShift Enterprise platform-as-a-service offering.
Paul Cormier, Red Hat's president of Products and Technologies, released a blog posting today about this partnership. From the blog:
Both Red Hat and Microsoft are key players in this new, hybrid cloud reality. Today, it is incredibly likely that where you once found “Red Hat shops” and “Microsoft shops,” you’ll find heterogeneous environments that include solutions from both companies. We heard from customers and partners that they wanted our solutions to work together - with consistent APIs, frameworks, management, and platforms. They not only wanted Red Hat offerings on Microsoft Azure, they wanted to be able to build .NET applications on infrastructure powered by Red Hat Enterprise Linux, including OpenShift, Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform.
As customers move to a microservices architecture, I see a consistent enterprise platform and APIs for certified applications and container portability across physical, virtual, and private and public clouds becoming that much more important. Customers will want to be able to choose Microsoft Windows for Windows containers, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host and OpenShift for certified Red Hat Enterprise Linux containers unified by the common .NET framework.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by NickFortune on Thursday November 05 2015, @01:37PM
I wonder if this will work out as well for them as it did for Novell.
Maybe when the dust settles they'll find a job for Lennart at Xamarin.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:34PM
Heh good point. Any bets on MS eventually swallowing Red Hat in some fashion? Maybe as a subsidiary to try and maintain the illusion of RH retaining independence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:43PM
This is a plot within a plot. Soon all things M$ will depend on libsystemd0.dll!
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Thursday November 05 2015, @09:17PM
Yes. Embrace has already happened with the millions of dollars Microsoft donated to Red Hat. Extend is systemd. We are still in the extend phase. More of userspace and more kernel patches, systemd needs deeper roots before the final phase. Extinguish. Cash in and bail out. The bigwigs sell all their stock and drive the company into the ground. Now everyone is left to, once again, try to clean up potterings hot mess. Except this time, unlike pulseaudio, every other package in the distro has a systemd dependency! You might as well make the whole distro from scratch. We saw this coming. We said we hated it. The maintainers didn't listen, or didn't care. I'm grateful for non systemd distros and the BSD's.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Alias on Friday November 06 2015, @06:37AM
I'm afraid they aren't going to cash out and run the company in to the ground. If they did that, it would be merciful. The Linux community doesn't need Redhat or Canonical or Suse (Novell/MS/whoever they are this week.)
No, Redhat is the launching point of a much greater grab. MS knows Linux is everywhere and that Windows isn't competitive with it as a platform any more. In the cloud space, Windows makes essentially no sense and everyone knows it, including MS. Any version of Windows server that would make sense in a cloud instance would be GUI-free, lightweight, super-flexible, and programmer/admin friendly. (No, sorry, MS, Visual Studio is fine, but it doesn't do anything that other development environments don't do except play nice with Windows.) And with those requirements, Linux or a BSD would be obvious choices and they are free, mature, and there are great programmers that are already familiar with them. MS just has nothing to offer in that space. And it will always be simpler to develop client/server stuff when the client and server are running the same basic platform -- no impedance mismatch. Just about everything now has a client/server component. The writing has been on the wall for Windows for a long time now and MS has realized that over the last couple years. No Windows == no MS tax and no leverage for arm twisting. Mono, Azure, systemd, (secure) UEFI, and probably, (I hate to say it,) Steam, are the vectors, (and the Surface books are also a shot across the bow of hardware makers,) for the conversion to patent-based MS-tax extraction from hardware vendors.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Noldir on Friday November 06 2015, @07:44AM
Agree with a lot of points you make except this:
No, sorry, MS, Visual Studio is fine, but it doesn't do anything that other development environments don't do except play nice with Windows.
The one thing Visual Studio *really* does better then everyone else is the debugger. Still haven't found a decent open source replacement that has the same capabilities.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:02PM
When Microsoft did the deal with Novell/SuSE they promised not to sue end-users over "potential" IP infringements in Linux (copyrights and patents etc.) if the user bought a SuSE license ($699 or whatever). Are they doing the same deal with RedHat now? As the Dell salesdroid once told me many years ago, "Linux is more expensive than Windows."
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Thursday November 05 2015, @08:26PM
They should tell that Amazon [ec2instances.info]. For some strange reason they charge for the same hardware double the price when it runs Windows instead of Linux :-)
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