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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday November 05 2015, @03:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the everybody-is-going-green dept.

From the openSUSE news website:

The wait is over and a new era begins for openSUSE releases. Contributors, friends and fans can now download the first Linux hybrid distro openSUSE Leap 42.1. Since the last release, exactly one year ago, openSUSE transformed its development process to create an entirely new type of hybrid Linux distribution called openSUSE Leap.

Version 42.1 is the first version of openSUSE Leap that uses source from SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) providing a level of stability that will prove to be unmatched by other Linux distributions. Bonding community development and enterprise reliability provides more cohesion for the project and its contributor's maintenance updates. openSUSE Leap will benefit from the enterprise maintenance effort and will have some of the same packages and updates as SLE, which is different from previous openSUSE versions that created separate maintenance streams.

Community developers provide an equal level of contribution to Leap and upstream projects to the release, which bridges a gap between matured packages and newer packages found in openSUSE's other distribution Tumbleweed.

Since the move was such a shift from previous versions, a new version number and version naming strategy was adapted to reflect the change. The SLE sources come from SUSE's soon to be released SLE 12 Service Pack 1 (SP1). The naming strategy is SLE 12 SP1 or 12.1 + 30 = openSUSE Leap 42.1. Many have asked why 42, but SUSE and openSUSE have a tradition of starting big ideas with a four and two, a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @03:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @03:50PM (#258901)

    So in which way is it hybrid? It comes with a Linux and a BSD kernel? Or it comes with both rpm and dpkg? Or maybe it has both SysV init and systemd?

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:15PM (#258916)

    Marketing speak nonsense. Its a long term support edition (enterprise) with access to repositories of newer software. Have your cake and eat it too, at least till one of the fancy new packages busts something.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:01PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:01PM (#258935)

      Marketing-speak indeed. If you were to accept that this was something truly new and different, you'd think that nobody [debian.org] had ever before considered creating a more stable version of the distro (in fact, let's call it "stable"), a faster-moving but not-as-tested version of the distro (let's call it "testing"), and maybe some additional newer packages that people are just trying out for the first time (let's call it "experimental"). Or that nobody had set up a stable distro aimed at large datacenters and corporations [redhat.com] while also putting out a similar-but-different more experimental distro for ordinary users [getfedora.org]. Or that nobody had thought of creating a hybrid system that did both binary packages for common tools [freebsd.org] and parallel source-based system for less-common packages [freebsd.org].

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:35PM (#258950)

      Isn't that exactly what Ubuntu is? A long term support edition (Debian) with newer repositories added on top.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @10:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @10:14PM (#259123)

        Yup! But this one is new... And hybrid, must be green like the cars?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2015, @01:42AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 06 2015, @01:42AM (#259219)

          Not gas/electric, more like a mule. Makes me wonder which it has more of: hybrid vigor, or hybrid sterility?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 06 2015, @12:12AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 06 2015, @12:12AM (#259183) Journal

        Uhhhhh - no. Ubuntu is not Debian. Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it's not Debian. Linux Mint people understand that. They offer Mint, based on Ubuntu, and LMDE, based on Debian. I was an early adopter of Ubuntu, but I dropped it because it departs so far from what Debian is all about.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Friday November 06 2015, @01:51AM

      by frojack (1554) on Friday November 06 2015, @01:51AM (#259225) Journal

      Opensuse was historically viewed by Suse as a testbed platform for Suse Linux Enterprise: Server and Desktop (SLES / SLED)

      As such it was fairly bleeding edge, and things would get foisted on Opensuse well before they were ready. The worst such disaster was KDE 4.0, a full 2.5 years before it was ready for prime time. Then there was systemd, which Opensuse did a pretty good job of making painless. The most recent was BTRFS as the default (but certainly not the only) file system choice for your root partition - another minor disaster.

      All of these happened with no-notice.

      Opensuse sold itself as being a community distro, but in actuality the community had absolutely zero say about what went into the product. You could bitch all you wanted, but nothing changed. Their mailing list manager simply started killing threads that had anything to do with systemd and banning subscribers. It got ugly.

      At least now the pretense of being a community distro os over. Its still a testbed for SLES/SLED, but at least you get to run the same things that SLE has. (Including one of the slickest integrations of LDAP I've ever seen.) Previously SLED packages wouldn't install on OpenSuse. SLED/SLES are extremely stable and well tested.

      It will be interesting to see how they handle the testbed purpose of OpenSuse while maintaining compatibility with SLE.

      Full disclosure I like the distro. I'll probably like LEAP when I get around to installing it. I see the warts because I use it every day, but by and large it is problem free if you know what to avoid.

      Just don't install BTRFS, because you WILL lose data (I promise), and you will have no clue where all your disk space went. BTRFS is still not ready for prime time. Give it another year.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @04:38PM (#258926)

    Their new OS uses so much power that you'll need a steam engine to power your PC, but it'll automatically switch over to lithium battery during periods of activity.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 05 2015, @05:31PM (#258946)

      Is that why suse feels like it's dragging an effing piano compared to other distros?

      OK, to be fair the last time I actually tried suse I was probably comparing it with mandrake. Yes mandrake, not mandriva, so that puts it at probably 10+ years. Still, it was so slow on the hardware I was using I've never looked back.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:37PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Thursday November 05 2015, @06:37PM (#258996) Journal

        Mandrake... still makes me cry, i miss it so. Miss Corel, too: Corel gave me multiples. :O

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