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More than 40 states have banned the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors, but Michael Greenwood reports at the Yale School of Medicine that a study indicates that these measures have an unintended and dangerous consequence: increasing adolescents' use of conventional cigarettes. "Conventional cigarette use has been falling somewhat steadily among this age group since the start of the 21st century. This paper shows that bans on e-cigarette sales to minors appear to have slowed this decline by about 70 percent in the states that implemented them," says Abigail Friedman. "In other words, as a result of these bans, more teenagers are using conventional cigarettes than otherwise would have done so." Guided by her findings and the fact that habitual use of conventional cigarettes first spikes at age 16, Friedman suggests that bans on e-cigarette sales may be more effective in reducing teenage smoking if they were limited to those under 16, rather than those under 18.
This middle ground solution may provide a way to reduce teen smoking while the long-term effects of vaping, still largely unknown, are being determined. "Policy makers have been assuming that banning e-cigarette sales to minors will improve public health. This paper's finding, that these bans increase conventional cigarette smoking among teens, suggests that we may need to rethink this conclusion."
(Score: 4, Interesting) by frojack on Saturday November 07 2015, @02:41AM
"Conventional cigarette use has been falling somewhat steadily among this age group since the start of the 21st century.
The timeline:
1) Usage was falling since well before e-cigs became common.
2) E-cigs came along and because they were assumed to be harmless, sucked a lot of teens into the nicotine addiction that had been dwindling steadily since the mid 90s.
3) E-sigs get band for this age group, and those with the addiction, or simply the oral fixation, turn to regular cigarettes.
Therefor: as soon as this cohort of suckered in people work their way through the age-group, that age-group will in all likely-hood go back to not smoking, or doing so at a declining rate.
Substituting one nicotine delivery system for another didn't actually accomplish anything as far as reducing the addiction. That problem was solving itself. The E-cigs simply prop up the myth of sophistication, while getting people hooked on nicotine.
Now what happens when Pot gets legalized everywhere? Do regular smoking rates also increase?
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(Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday November 07 2015, @03:03AM
Most people I know who vape do so with 0mg unless they were an ex smoker. I've never known a non-smoker who vapes to use nicotine (though I won't be surprised if those cases exists). This study fails to note if teens are actually getting nictone or not.
I've managed to quit smoking paper and step down to zero with the intent of quitting entirely.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday November 07 2015, @04:56AM
But, don't you see, that just deepens the question.
If young vapers are not after nicotine, then why do they turn to cigarettes when vaping becomes illegal for them?
if there was no nicotine addiction, what is left to drive them to cigarettes? Oral fixation?
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(Score: 3, Funny) by sjames on Saturday November 07 2015, @08:16AM
Same reasons people of all ages start smoking, I would suppose.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2015, @12:41PM
Retardation? Being defective enough to be influenced by peer pressure to such an extent that they're willing to smoke cancer sticks?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by tathra on Saturday November 07 2015, @03:38PM
all ages? childhood and teenage is where almost everyone starts smoking, once you make it past teenage you're pretty much guaranteed to not be a smoker. [gizmodo.com]
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2015, @03:38AM
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Saturday November 07 2015, @04:12AM
2) E-cigs came along and because they were assumed to be harmless, sucked a lot of teens into the nicotine addiction that had been dwindling steadily since the mid 90s.
More like, ecigs came along and were much easier for teens to get.
I remember back in my high school days, mid '70s, the hardest drug to get was alcohol. Pot, quaaludes, bennies, LSD, coke? If you had the cash you could easily get it. Beer/wine/any other alcohol? Didn't matter how much money you had, the problem was finding someone to buy it for you.
My ducks are not in a row. I don't know where some of them are, and I'm pretty sure one of them is a turkey.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday November 07 2015, @04:50AM
More like, ecigs came along and were much easier for teens to get.
Well, yeah, goes without saying, since they were not illegal.
But still, the smoking was on the decline. Why did that turn around, just because of vaping?
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(Score: 3, Informative) by sjames on Saturday November 07 2015, @08:21AM
Actually, ecigs are considerably less addictive than cigarettes. Cigarettes contain MAO inhibitors that potentiate nicotine and it's addictive properties.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2015, @03:41PM
Got a source for that? I can make stuff up too, doesn't make it true.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2015, @11:15PM
I found a few with a search engine
https://books.google.com/books?id=DqVkmgm0gU4C&pg=PA67 [google.com]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12564384 [nih.gov]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC19495/ [nih.gov]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15582589 [nih.gov]
http://www.macalester.edu/academics/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/dopamine/alcoholtobac.html [macalester.edu]
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/10920573_Monoamine_Oxidase_and_Cigarette_Smoking [researchgate.net]
https://www.gwern.net/docs/nicotine/2003-fowler.pdf [gwern.net]
http://www.healthnz.co.nz/Addiction_TobNic.htm [healthnz.co.nz]