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Phoronix reports the systemd developers are having their first conference. Here is a direct link to the YouTube video channel.
Whether you love systemd or hate it, it looks like it's not going away. If you dislike it maybe one of these videos might change your mind.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 10 2015, @05:42AM
It's Balrog! Evil from the most ancient times and the depths of hell, or at least the depths of Moria. I just wanna say, like, dudes and dudettes, thou shall not pass, m'kay? Systemd shall not pass ("Fly, you fools!" "I am trying to buy you time! Run! No, seriously, run!" ) Nope, not gonna happen! Go back to the RedHat of which you were made! You shall not pass! Why are you making me repeat myself? Hey, what is the boot dependency that is coiling around my feet. Oh, crap. Time to go all Gandalf the White on their asses. BSD!
Sorry for all of the Lord of the Rings channelling, it seemed appropriate.
(Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 10 2015, @05:49AM
addendum: I was so scared of the Balrog, I said BSD when I meant "Slackware". My bad. Apologies.
(Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:09AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2, Interesting) by canopic jug on Tuesday November 10 2015, @11:16AM
Devuan's working pretty well for me on my personal laptop currently. (Apart from the lack of control I have over the HDMI using xrandr.)
There's an update on the Status of the Devuan Project [youtube.com] presented by VUA Alberto Zuin and another VUA. It was made recently at the 2015 OpenNebula conference in Barcelona. They've made a lot of progress in a short time and have built up a more modern development infrastructure than what Debian had. They are very clearly in it for the long game and aiming for servers, embedded devices, and desktops.
Though it will be ready when it's ready, it's reached Alpha 2. I plan to finish my migration when vdev is done.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 10 2015, @11:48AM
I will also give a hat-tip here to Gentoo, a distribution which I've tarred perhaps unfairly over the last decade (but that is because they do attract too many inane ricers), but as I was looking for a systemd-less distro earlier this year, the IRC channels were *awesome*. I went in there humbly, knowing very little about how to get things done in Gentoo, and pretty much every question got a quick, accurate, useful, and non-condescending answer. At the moment, I'd say it's the best community I've seen. I may well keep one of my machines on Gentoo, just so I don't lose what I've learnt. (My experiences with Slackware were quite the opposite, unfortunately.)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 10 2015, @01:29PM
As somebody who has never had much distro loyalty (as in, used SuSE, CentOS, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Arch, Linux From Scratch, Slackware, and a few others), I have to say that Gentoo is extremely handy for personal use. I wouldn't run it on a server, because updates are too complicated for that, but for a desktop it's really easy to just start up an update run just before you go to bed, wait 5 minutes to make sure it's starting OK, and then come back in the morning and it's done. They also have one of the more elegant solutions to the problem of updating config files - far too many distros just clobber any customizations you've made.
And, as you note, they did a bunch of work to avoid systemd when to do that made them a lonely voice in the crowd.
So yeah, it's worth giving a try.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 10 2015, @12:09PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @12:17PM
Enable Javascript. Make sure you're using systemd. View the whole thing on a 30" monitor consisting of s single Gnome3 window that is 94% empty space... :-)
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Tuesday November 10 2015, @05:24PM
fatphil, AC: It also works if you enable Javascript, purge systemd from your half-Wheezy half-Jessie system, and view it on a screen controlled by LXDE :-)
The article itself is interesting and well-written, I found.
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Tuesday November 10 2015, @05:29PM
He (Jude) also explains the design a bit, I'm not going to copy his article, but the three main points are:
- the ( /dev ) filesystem is the API (*)
- the shell is the glue
- there are multiple device event sources
he says vdev should work without DBus as well, and multi-platform not just Linux.
(*) but, he also says that the /dev filesystem alone is not enough to represent the notions of "seat", "login session" and "container".
(Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Wednesday November 11 2015, @12:14AM
Ha, gotta love the wheezy Jessie!
apt-get install -t unstable
Is my friend.
I would jump ship to BSD if there were any distro that supported Xen and ZFS
but until then it's bastard hybrid Debian all the way!