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posted by janrinok on Tuesday November 10 2015, @05:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the love-it-or-hate-it dept.

Phoronix reports the systemd developers are having their first conference. Here is a direct link to the YouTube video channel.

Whether you love systemd or hate it, it looks like it's not going away. If you dislike it maybe one of these videos might change your mind.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @08:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @08:28AM (#261138)

    There are other Linux distributions and you can always use FreeBSD.

    "Other Linux distributions" being basically down to Slackware and Gentoo, with Gentoo users complaining that systemd keeps sneaking in through the backdoor and Patrick (Slackware) only promising to "wait and see".

    As for FreeBSD, as far as I know the software I use most doesn't run, or at least not very well on FreeBSD. It's called Steam, and tends to quickly turn into a huge investment.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @08:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @08:35AM (#261142)

    You might consider trying (and backing if happy) devuan. They did a pretty good job sofar, even if they look like condemned like any people trying to oppose lennax.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @12:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @12:45PM (#261210)

      I'm glad to hear that at least one of the "protest distros" has survived. A lot sprung up in a short time, and most of them seemed doomed to die once the people behind realized how big a task a distro is.

      If the efforts have been focused on Devuan, it may be time to add that one to the "keep an eye on" list.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:35AM (#261168)

    I just downloaded FreeBSD. (Boot drive failed, might as well refine my set-up)

    I plan to use full-disk encryption, then dual-boot Ubuntu off a second hard-drive. That way, proprietary software like steam can not clobber my work (or at least not exfiltrate it in clear-text).

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:48AM

    by Magic Oddball (3847) on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:48AM (#261174) Journal

    PCLinuxOS is still holding steady against systemd as well — I've been using it since last December, and have been very happy with it.

    • (Score: 2) by present_arms on Tuesday November 10 2015, @06:34PM

      by present_arms (4392) on Tuesday November 10 2015, @06:34PM (#261371) Homepage Journal

      That makers 2 of us, except I've used it longer, I think Texstar would rather have his balls removed with a rusty razor blade than have systemd infect his distro

      Alie

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      http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/
    • (Score: 2) by novak on Tuesday November 10 2015, @06:48PM

      by novak (4683) on Tuesday November 10 2015, @06:48PM (#261384) Homepage

      Is PCLinuxOS a reasonable replacement for say, mint? I myself use crux primarily, but sometimes I have to put together a machine for someone less technically adept. Thus far I've been sticking with systemd-less debian, and it's ok. But I would prefer to use and support something a little more-future-proof and... I never thought I'd get to say this... better made than debian.

      --
      novak
      • (Score: 2) by present_arms on Tuesday November 10 2015, @07:33PM

        by present_arms (4392) on Tuesday November 10 2015, @07:33PM (#261396) Homepage Journal

        In my humble opinion, yes it is, it also has Mate and Cinnamon of you like those desktops, plus it's a rolling release, install once use always, I myself have made some community ISO'S of trinity (see sig), KDE and Mate so people can use it without downloading 10 months worth of updates :) the community is small yet very friendly :)

        Alie

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        http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/
        • (Score: 2) by novak on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:39PM

          by novak (4683) on Tuesday November 10 2015, @09:39PM (#261445) Homepage

          Great, I'll give it a try and see how I like it. I see it has LXDE too which is what I usually put on machines to be used by people who do not like/know tiling WMs. I personally like trinity quite a bit too, and it's pretty easy for someone to get the hang of so I might actually give that a shot as well.

          Good to know that there are still a lot of people holding out against systemd. Even after losing some of the better known distros there are still quite a few options. I know people say linux isn't about choice but that's one of the biggest reasons I love it.

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          novak
          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Alias on Wednesday November 11 2015, @03:33AM

            by Alias (2825) on Wednesday November 11 2015, @03:33AM (#261566)

            "I know people say linux isn't about choice but that's one of the biggest reasons I love it."

            Linux has always been about choice. Linus has said so many times. GNU / the GPL have always been about freedom. (Read the GNU manifesto.) The GPL has allowed programmers who care about software freedoms some assurance that their work and derivatives of it can be legally encumbered only to the exact degree allowed by the license.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by tekk on Tuesday November 10 2015, @07:55PM

    by tekk (5704) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 10 2015, @07:55PM (#261404)

    General consensus among Slackware users at this point is that if Slack adopts systemd there's a fork that takes most of the serious users with it, not a distro to worry about.