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Phoronix reports the systemd developers are having their first conference. Here is a direct link to the YouTube video channel.
Whether you love systemd or hate it, it looks like it's not going away. If you dislike it maybe one of these videos might change your mind.
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(Score: 2) by melikamp on Tuesday November 10 2015, @07:48PM
Whose bad is it, FP? Who is the villain? systemd, Lennart, the cabal, RedHat, or the Debian technical committee? Face it, no one was twisting anyone's arm. The cabal managed to write something marginally better than the traditional init, and distros started to adapt it willingly. It is silly to expect that your distro will never change (unless you are on DOS or something), so when your "finely tuned" scripts stopped working (which was only a matter of time), you had 2 choices: update the scripts for year 2015 or downgrade your distro. You picked the downgrade, which probably makes total sense in your case, so what's all this bile for? Life ain't perfect, but you seem to be doing OK :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @08:22PM
Because the future only holds systemd options, with tons of core software people require depending on it as well. Some will be able to hold out for a few years I'm sure, but eventually something will come down the pipe that requires newer versions. Up until now Linux had only one real dependency, the kernel. Everything else had options. Systemd apologists keep saying it is modular, and anyone can write a replacement, but so far these claims seem to be total bunk. Half of the anger is about having a complicated and buggy system shoved on the entire community with questionable benefits, and the subjugation of functionality keeps increasing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2015, @10:52PM
for year 2015
IT IS THE CURRENT YEAR
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Alias on Wednesday November 11 2015, @03:52AM
"Face it, no one was twisting anyone's arm."
I know I am going to sound like a conspiracy theorist for saying this, but... Arms were almost certainly twisted. The current status of systemd in the Linux world doesn't make sense unless people in charge of projects, who have been doing this for a long time and know better, have had silent strokes or something. Many different people. Strokes. In unison. Either that or arm twisting. When I first installed Centos 7, I was somewhat of a systemd apologist too.. I thought, "yeah, this is wierd and very non-Unix way, but this is Redhat and if they want to be corporate and stupid, it is their right to do so, since it is their distro and it seems to work OK, and they aliased old commands to their systemd equivalents so I don't even realize I am using systemd half the time when I am using it." And then I learned more about it and realized how much of a trap/torpedo it is. And then Redhat announces a partnership with MS not long after MS's rather obvious pro-Mono-on-Linux developer evangelism which reminded me of the developer evangelism details I read about in those documents that became part of public record in a european country where Microsoft was sued several years ago. And then I looked at some systemd code and was reasonably impressed until I looked at the interfaces, which seem almost intentionally impedance-mismatched with the rest of the Linux/Unix world, kind of like IE's Javascript event bubbling model. And then I looked at a bunch of systemd blog astroturf and realized that someone paid a lot of people to flog the stupid bullet points in Lennart's conference presentation, which are very disinformational. And then I read about Redhat hiring an ex-MS PR guy and thought, "aha, that explains why Redhat's spokespeople are suddenly insulting the intelligence of the entire free software community." This rabbit hole just keeps on giving. I bet 98% of the people that hate systemd don't even realize how bad it actually is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2015, @06:56AM
Been noticing Fedora news in outlets that rarely to never mentioned any Linux news as all (unless it was some spectacular security failure). The marketing push must be staggering on all fronts.
BTW, RH's biggest customer right now seems to be the M-I complex. Their current chairman was formerly the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon no less.
Frankly it seems that RH is pitching to replace Windows as the M-I's go-to OS, after screwups like a certain Windows running warship.
And systemd seem perfect for producing a *nix that is "familiar" to MSCEs.