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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday November 11 2015, @02:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the rise-of-the-proletariat dept.

Hundreds of fast food workers are striking nationwide Tuesday, joining other workers in pressing for a more livable wage. But while some say $15 is a minimum needed to survive, some business owners say dishing out more pay would leave them struggling to keep their doors open.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fast-food-workers-strike-again-nationwide-for-15-an-hour

In New York City, rallies are being held in Harlem, the Financial District and Brooklyn in support of efforts to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, reports CBS New York.

In Los Angeles, the local protests are organized by Service Employees International Union, and include fast-food, home-care and child-care workers, along with other "underpaid" employees, reports CBS Los Angeles.

"Is this the America we believe in? When someone works all day long and they still can't get by," New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said during an early-morning rally in Downtown Brooklyn. "Does anyone believe that it's easy to get by in New York City on less than $15 an hour?"

Critics say a $15 minimum wage would obliterate opportunity and usher in higher taxes, but de Blasio said the opposite is true -- with more money to spend, low wage workers contribute more to the economy.


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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 12 2015, @12:10AM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 12 2015, @12:10AM (#261988) Homepage Journal

    Sounds like your hypothetical people made a hell of a lot of shitty decisions and are having to live with the consequences. I approve of this. People should have to live with the consequences of their choices. The state exists to secure our liberty not to hold our hands cradle to grave.

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday November 12 2015, @12:16AM

    by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Thursday November 12 2015, @12:16AM (#261989) Homepage Journal

    Sounds like your hypothetical people made a hell of a lot of shitty decisions and are having to live with the consequences. I approve of this. People should have to live with the consequences of their choices. The state exists to secure our liberty not to hold our hands cradle to grave.

    Absolutely. These people [google.com] especially deserve everything they get, don't they?

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    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:38PM

      by Reziac (2489) on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:38PM (#262149) Homepage

      Except for the minor detail that what we call "poverty" in America is roughly European middle class, and top-tier for the rest of the world.

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      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday November 12 2015, @08:07PM

        by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Thursday November 12 2015, @08:07PM (#262327) Homepage Journal

        Except for the minor detail that what we call "poverty" in America is roughly European middle class, and top-tier for the rest of the world.

        You're lying to yourself [wikipedia.org] and others [wikipedia.org], friend.

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        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday November 12 2015, @08:28PM

          by Reziac (2489) on Thursday November 12 2015, @08:28PM (#262337) Homepage
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          • (Score: 2) by Nollij on Thursday November 12 2015, @10:49PM

            by Nollij (4559) on Thursday November 12 2015, @10:49PM (#262394)

            Based on that very page, we can conclude that:

            20% of poor households do not have A/C
            over 25% do not own a car/truck
            half do not own a personal computer
            57% do not have internet access
            and 17% of poor families do not have enough food to eat

            The other side of the coin looks very different, doesn't it?

            • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday November 12 2015, @11:49PM

              by Reziac (2489) on Thursday November 12 2015, @11:49PM (#262412) Homepage

              If you neglect to control for those who live where A/C is redundant to the climate, and who use a cellphone instead of a PC and internet access... as to "not enough food" I have yet to see any starving poor in the U.S., and aside from having never broken the poverty line myself, I've lived in some very poor areas. Just today I was reading another study, tho, which noted that this was a self-reported stat and when broken down into food types, basically translated as "at least, we don't get to eat as much expensive junk food as we'd like".

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              • (Score: 2) by Nollij on Friday November 13 2015, @04:11AM

                by Nollij (4559) on Friday November 13 2015, @04:11AM (#262497)

                I was actually referring to the different emotional reaction people have to the 2 stats, depending on phrasing

                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday November 13 2015, @04:28AM

                  by Reziac (2489) on Friday November 13 2015, @04:28AM (#262499) Homepage

                  Good point.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2015, @01:24AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2015, @01:24AM (#262443)

              20% of poor households do not have A/C

              Twenty percent of poor household don't have their own Anonymous Coward? This is an outrage!

  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:48AM

    by mhajicek (51) on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:48AM (#262026)

    Yup, it was really stupid of them to be born into poor uneducated minority families. Serves them right. Wrath begets wealth and poverty begets poverty. The world is not nearly as economically mobile as you seem to think.

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    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:52AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Thursday November 12 2015, @02:52AM (#262027)

      *wealth begets wealth.

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