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The Washington Post reports:
Hollande is expected to put forward a bill this week to extend a state of emergency for three months, enhancing police power to restrict freedom of movement and gatherings at public places.
At Versailles, he also proposed constitutional changes that would allow authorities to withdraw French citizenship from people with dual nationality, even if they were born in France, and to prevent French terrorism suspects from returning to France.
(Emphasis added.)
I feel this would be unproductive; among the problems Europe has long faced is that the children and even grandchildren of immigrants feel unwelcome in the nations of their birth: I understand there are some European countries in which birth does not convey citizenship. President Hollande's proposal would dramatically exacerbate the problem and so give rise to further terrorism.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by nishi.b on Wednesday November 18 2015, @09:03AM
I can answer to this part:
> If someone was born in France, and is a citizen of France and France alone, and they are known to be a terrorist, why shouldn't this measure be used against them?
There are international treaties on human rights (including from the EU) that France signed that prevent a country from making someone apatrid (without any nationality), because they would be unable to have passport or to live officially in any country. This is human rights, not "non-terrorist rights".
As you said, that's a completely stupid idea as these people don't care at all about this. And sending them abroad to do something elsewhere is not justice.
As a french I can tell you that I completely disagree with this : instead of making a symbolic gesture like that mean more or less "not our problem" I would much prefer that we do the work and give them the benefit of a trial, prison sentence and the like.
We have to prosecute and deal with our own criminals. Because yes, these guys are french, went to french schools, speak french as their first language... And becoming terrorist make them french criminals, traitors if you want.
The reason is said that is because far-right and right-wing parties who want to look tough are asking for this for a number of years now.
(Score: 1) by xav on Wednesday November 18 2015, @09:28PM
> > If someone was born in France, and is a citizen of France and France alone, and they are known to be a terrorist, why shouldn't this measure be used against them?
> There are international treaties on human rights (including from the EU) that France signed that prevent a country from making someone apatrid
Right. France signed the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness in 1961
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Reduction_of_Statelessness [wikipedia.org]
> instead of making a symbolic gesture like that mean more or less "not our problem" I would much prefer that we do the work and give them the benefit of a trial, prison sentence and the like
My understanding is that terrorists would get both: trial/prison AND loss of French nationality
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Thursday November 19 2015, @01:20AM
I suspect the EU would sanction France if they actually past it in their Constitution. Europe in general appears to be pretty sensitive on the subject due to the events of 1936-1945 (and I'm trying to avoid godwinning this thread). Some countries require you to renounce citizenship if you become a dual citizen (Japan is probably the most prominent that does this, but there are others), but that's (usually) if you gain a second citizenship in addition to your home one.
As for my side of the pond, SCOTUS has ruled revocation of a natural-born citizenship is cruel and unusual punishment. It is an option in the case of someone who has nationalized, and holds dual citizenship, though very rarely practiced.
Still always moving