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posted by n1 on Wednesday November 18 2015, @04:04AM   Printer-friendly
from the with-them-or-against-us dept.

The Washington Post reports:

Hollande is expected to put forward a bill this week to extend a state of emergency for three months, enhancing police power to restrict freedom of movement and gatherings at public places.

At Versailles, he also proposed constitutional changes that would allow authorities to withdraw French citizenship from people with dual nationality, even if they were born in France, and to prevent French terrorism suspects from returning to France.

(Emphasis added.)

I feel this would be unproductive; among the problems Europe has long faced is that the children and even grandchildren of immigrants feel unwelcome in the nations of their birth: I understand there are some European countries in which birth does not convey citizenship. President Hollande's proposal would dramatically exacerbate the problem and so give rise to further terrorism.


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 18 2015, @01:33PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 18 2015, @01:33PM (#264832) Journal

    Stupid enough to be exploited by the less stupid, unfortunately, is not

    Oh, but it is. Granted, it make take some generations but, as Rome wasn't built in a day, it wasn't destroyed in a week either.
    I spite of "the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health", once they stepped on the stupidity cycle, the Roman Empire was bound to extinction.

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  • (Score: 2) by jimshatt on Wednesday November 18 2015, @10:40PM

    by jimshatt (978) on Wednesday November 18 2015, @10:40PM (#265123) Journal
    The fitness function may include stupidity as a parameter, but it's not evident that the relation is linear. That is, lesser values of s don't necessarily lead to better fitness. Evolution doesn't work towards some goal of least stupid super-humanity. As I'm sure you know. Conclusion: there'll always be stupidity.
    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 19 2015, @12:43AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 19 2015, @12:43AM (#265163) Journal

      Conclusion: there'll always be stupidity.

      That's an axiom, not a conclusion.

      The fitness function may include stupidity as a parameter, but it's not evident that the relation is linear. That is, lesser values of s don't necessarily lead to better fitness.

      At individual level, you are right, be it only because of stochastic variations.
      At statistically large ensembles of individuals and given enough time, some dynamics start to emerge.

      I promise that someday, just for the heck of it, I'll plug in some Lotka-Volterra eqs, assuming stupidity and wisdom are competing and are "infectious" via social/environment influences.

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