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posted by martyb on Friday November 20 2015, @01:40PM   Printer-friendly

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/20/456758931/radisson-hotel-in-mali-attacked-gunmen-take-170-hostages

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34877069

Malian special forces have entered the Radisson Blu Hotel in Mali's capital, Bamako, to end a siege by gunmen who had been holding 170 people hostage. The gunmen stormed the US-owned hotel, which is popular with foreign businesses and airline crews, shooting and shouting "God is great!" in Arabic. Malian state TV is reporting that 80 people have now been freed. At least three people are reported to have been killed in the siege that started around 07:00 GMT. Six staff from Turkish Airlines were at the hotel when it was attacked, and a Chinese guest told China's state news agency Xinhua he was among about seven Chinese tourists trapped there. A French presidential source said French citizens were also at the Radisson Blu Hotel, Reuters news agency reports.

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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by jmorris on Friday November 20 2015, @04:11PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Friday November 20 2015, @04:11PM (#265854)

    Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture' and murder and war is a way of life. How obvious does Evil have to be before we in the West can say what is self evidently true and call it out?

    There will be no peace between us. Ever. If we, at great expense in blood and treasure, beat them down and force them to submit we will have a short period without violence while they regroup and rearm. We must ban them from our lands, require those already within to assimilate (i.e. convert to a less 'pure' for of Islam that is compatible with civilization) or leave and stop feeding them such that they can afford to breed in such a profligate way so as to keep their numbers under control within their own lands. Yes that means we spend whatever it takes to make the oil under their sand worth roughly the same as the sand atop it.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2015, @06:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2015, @06:38PM (#265902)

    Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture' and murder and war is a way of life. How obvious does Evil have to be before we in the West can say what is self evidently true and call it out?

    There will be no peace between us. Ever. If we, at great expense in blood and treasure, beat them down and force them to submit we will have a short period without violence while they regroup and rearm. We must ban them from our lands, require those already within to assimilate (i.e. convert to a less 'pure' for of Islam that is compatible with civilization) or leave and stop feeding them such that they can afford to breed in such a profligate way so as to keep their numbers under control within their own lands. Yes that means we spend whatever it takes to make the oil under their sand worth roughly the same as the sand atop it.

    Quite right, sir. Nuke 'em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

    Start with the Middle East, make our way to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia and anywhere else these scum reside. Once we've glassed over these violent scum, we can turn our attention to the wetbacks. They're really too close for nuking, so we should just shoot or sterilize them all, don't you think?

    But why stop there? Let's get all the niggers too. And the Jews. Don't forget those filthy Papists, either.

    We sure do have a lot of work to do, don't we jmorris [soylentnews.org]?

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 20 2015, @07:31PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday November 20 2015, @07:31PM (#265930) Journal

    Let us be judgemental. We are dealing with a religion where lying is considered moral, buggering children is 'part of their culture'....
     
    Yeah, I think we should ban Catholicism too.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jmorris on Friday November 20 2015, @08:03PM

      by jmorris (4844) on Friday November 20 2015, @08:03PM (#265943)

      When they start murdering and raping and trying to conquer the world under a black flag of hatred, we can discuss it. Not saying Christendom hasn't had it's bloody parts of history, but that it is -history-. Today we have a hundred or more sects of Christians, several flavors of Jews, Buddhists, Hippies, Secularists, Pastafarians, and even a few Witches co-existing mostly peacefully in the Western World. One is most notable for it's inability to coexist.

      The only upside is we should probably study Islam since it certainly seems to have solved the Entryism problem, no SJW infestation and corrupting in Islam and hasn't been for over a thousand years. So there is that.

      Progressives are the second worst at coexistance but they are mostly harmless if everyone else would simply point at them and laugh instead of taking them seriously; other than a few carefully staged race riots Proggies aren't that violent. (Being pussies by nature makes it hard to have a real revolution.... we do need to watch for the more violent Che/Stalin/Mao/Hitler types and nip those in the bud.)

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 20 2015, @09:31PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday November 20 2015, @09:31PM (#265977) Journal

        There have been more terrorist attacks in the US committed by Christians than by Muslims.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2015, @01:27AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 21 2015, @01:27AM (#266039)

          Same in Europe. By an enormous margin.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jmorris on Saturday November 21 2015, @02:28AM

          by jmorris (4844) on Saturday November 21 2015, @02:28AM (#266053)

          If there are so many, perhaps you could be bothered to mention one. No, every drive by shooting where the loser has a crucifix doesn't count anymore than some guy named Mohammad whacking somebody in a bad drug deal or who kills some asshole porking his wife is committing terrorism. You need to point to a hew hundred deaths by Christians who killed in the name of Christ. Post 1900 would probably be best for your argument. Better still would be killings where the victim was killed for not being a Christian or for being the 'wrong' kind. And of course the final qualification of 'terrorism' is the deaths have to be intended to cause political change due to fear/terror.

          I can think of an abortion butcher who got whacked that should probably be counted because it ticks all the boxes, a killing based on religious belief with an intention of causing political change by fear. One. There are websites that try and fail to track the deaths by Islam and can't seem to keep up. If we expand it to the Western World we also get the IRA but they don't really count since they were a Communist Front so those deaths should at least be split 50-50 between the Deaths by Communism and Death from Christians entries. So that is what I got, you got anything? I'm waiting. Anyone?

        • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Tuesday November 24 2015, @10:20PM

          by Wootery (2341) on Tuesday November 24 2015, @10:20PM (#267722)

          Don't be so disingenuous.

          It may well be true over all history, simply because in the west there are so many more Christians than Muslims. Start talking proportions, and things suddenly look rather different. And in modern times, Muslims seem to be responsible for most terrorism in the west, despite their small numbers. If we look only at religiously-motivated terrorism (discounting your average school shooter for example), things start looking even 'worse'.

          There is no Christian equivalent of the global movement of violent jihadism. The closest you'll get trying to make a comparison would be abortion clinic bombers, but it's off by orders of magnitude.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2015, @10:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 20 2015, @10:16PM (#265987)

    lying is considered moral

    We Westerners don't lie, because we know it's wrong.

    buggering children is 'part of their culture'

    Have you heard of Catholicism [wikipedia.org]?

    murder and war is a way of life

    Take for example the wars [politifact.com] in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Islamic State, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria.