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Four police officers and an unknown number of civilians have been hurt in an "active shooter" incident in the US city of Colorado Springs, police say.
Officers were exchanging fire with a gunman inside a Planned Parenthood clinic, police Lt Catherine Buckley said.
It was unclear if hostages had been taken, she said.
The city's Penrose hospital said it had received six patients, but did not say whether they were civilians or police.
The situation was still active and roads were closed, the city's police said in a tweet.
"We do not have the shooter at this point but we do have all of our resources brought to bear," Lt Buckley told local TV.
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Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 28 2015, @04:24AM
"This program does not pay for abortion care. [emphasis added]"
And, the fact remains, without those federal funds, PP would have to bar the doors on all of their clinics. Those funds INDIRECTLY fund abortions. I don't give a rip how imaginatively the accountants move the funds around, federal funds provide abortions.
"Good. Abortion is legal. Period. End of story."
Keep telling yourself that. There are abortion cases in the courts now. Remember Doctor Kermit? Maybe you should visit him in prison, and reassure him that abortions are legal.
"If you don't like it, move to Saudi Arabia or ISIS controlled areas."
Don't quit your day job - you're not going to make it as a comedian.
The ONLY difference between abortion and infanticide is a breath. One single breath. If the child is given the opportunity to draw one breath, then that child can and will scream when you stab a syringe into the back of his neck, to suck his brains out. One breath.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday November 28 2015, @04:43AM
The ONLY difference between abortion and infanticide is a breath. One single breath. If the child is given the opportunity to draw one breath, then that child can and will scream when you stab a syringe into the back of his neck, to suck his brains out. One breath.
Not so much. I invite you to educate yourself [wikipedia.org] (if you can open your mind enough to do so). From the link provided:
And even if you are a fanatic [brainyquote.com] and have all this love for these unborn children, how many children whose parents can't take care of them and/or live in places where they are forced to carry children to term have you brought into your home, adopted and raised as your own? If the answer isn't more than zero, you can't really care all that much, can you?
And since a large number of pregnancies end in miscarriage (that is, an abortion) without any intervention, should we prosecute everyone who has a miscarriage?
If you think termination of pregnancy is wrong, more power to you. If that's the case, I strongly recommend that you don't terminate your pregnancies. Beyond that, you have no right or moral authority to tell anyone else what they should or shouldn't do with their own bodies.
As I pointed out here and in a previous post, if you feel that strongly, adopt unwanted children and campaign for a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion. Otherwise, keep your nose out of other people's uteri.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 28 2015, @05:01AM
"Abortion is the ending of pregnancy by removing a fetus or embryo from the womb before it can survive on its own."
That definitions is far to simplistic. It was intentionally made simplistic to disguise the suffering involved in an abortion. Those babies, especially late term babies, SUFFER PAIN. As I said, a single breath separates a "fetus" from an "infant".
The rest of your post is meant to be taken seriously? It's better to be murdered, than to grow up poor, or unwanted? The fact that I can't adopt a million babies makes me a hypocrite for opposing abortion? Really?
I'll make a deal with you. I'll keep my nose out of other people's uteri, when those other people stop taking tax money to fund their abortion centers. No matter how many accounting games are played with PP's money, the fact remains that PP would go under without federal funding.
Planned parenthood and the prison industry are pretty equal as near as I can see. One kills babies, the other imprisons people for profit.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday November 28 2015, @06:32AM
I would just say that we should agree to disagree, but your way would inflict suffering on millions. I can't abide that.
That definitions is far to simplistic. It was intentionally made simplistic to disguise the suffering involved in an abortion. Those babies, especially late term babies, SUFFER PAIN. As I said, a single breath separates a "fetus" from an "infant".
Fine. Kill the babies! Rip their heads off. gnaw on their tasty little bones. Hooray!
The rest of your post is meant to be taken seriously? It's better to be murdered, than to grow up poor, or unwanted? The fact that I can't adopt a million babies makes me a hypocrite for opposing abortion? Really?
Yes, quite. Not even one, huh? You obviously only care about your political ideology and don't give a rat's ass about the suffering of children. I bet you support the death penalty too. That's hypocritical.
I'll make a deal with you. I'll keep my nose out of other people's uteri, when those other people stop taking tax money to fund their abortion centers. No matter how many accounting games are played with PP's money, the fact remains that PP would go under without federal funding.
No deal. The Federal government should be funding *all* forms of family planning *including* abortion. It's dinosaurs like you in Congress who exult in the suffering of countless women. it's disgusting.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 28 2015, @05:20AM
http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/02/11/pro-choicers-heres-why-you-cannot-support-abortion-while-opposing-puppy-murder/ [themattwalshblog.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Saturday November 28 2015, @06:43AM
http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/02/11/pro-choicers-heres-why-you-cannot-support-abortion-while-opposing-puppy-murder/
What a bunch of bullshit.
Fetuses are not "innocent humans". Fetuses are *developing* life forms, completely dependent on the sentient person gestating it.
If that sentient being does not wish to carry that fetus, it has the right to have it removed. Period. I don't have a uterus, so I have no say in that, ever.
Even if I did, the only uterus I'd have control over would be my own.
If you don't like that state of affairs, perhaps you should go somewhere where women are treated as property. Each woman makes her own choices and doesn't need you or anyone else making them for her.
I'm not going to change your mind and your irrational, paternalistic drivel isn't going to change mine.
In reading your posts and interacting with you here, you're obviously reasonably intelligent and, for the most part, seem to be a decent human being -- but not this. On this issue you're flat wrong and because of people like you, millions of women suffer needlessly. Shame on you!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 28 2015, @07:01AM
No woman has a "right" to demand that I pay for her abortion. Tax money supports Planned Parenthood. Without tax money, Planned Parenthood would close most, if not all, of it's clinics. A woman may decide to do whatever she wishes with her body, but she can do it at her own expense. It's really that simple.
Defund Planned Parenthood, and properly enforce the law that says no federal funds will be spent on abortion, and I'll be a whole lot happier.
I do note that you stipulate a right to govern her body. Getting an abortion is seldom a health issue. If and when it does become a genuine health issue, that is, pregnancy seriously threatens the mother's life, then I am willing to subsidize whichever procedure(s) are necessary to save her life.
I have performed triage. I understand the necessity to decide who survives sometimes. In an instance where either the baby or the mother survives, then the mother takes priority - UNLESS the mother herself says differently.
You might want to read my most recent journal entry. I went in search of a blog that I read a decade ago, couldn't find it, so dredged up my re-posting of that blog. There's another that I'm searching for . . .
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 28 2015, @07:46AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 28 2015, @08:51PM
THIS, plus I am sure he is perfectly fine with his tax dollars going towards purchasing all those bullets and missiles and bombs with the potential to kill every baby on this planet 20 times over. What a self-righteous hypocrite.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday November 28 2015, @02:05PM
No problem: your tax gets spent on various pork barrels. It's the entire NotSanguine's tax that is used for PP.
Happy now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 28 2015, @07:40AM