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Four police officers and an unknown number of civilians have been hurt in an "active shooter" incident in the US city of Colorado Springs, police say.
Officers were exchanging fire with a gunman inside a Planned Parenthood clinic, police Lt Catherine Buckley said.
It was unclear if hostages had been taken, she said.
The city's Penrose hospital said it had received six patients, but did not say whether they were civilians or police.
The situation was still active and roads were closed, the city's police said in a tweet.
"We do not have the shooter at this point but we do have all of our resources brought to bear," Lt Buckley told local TV.
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(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday November 28 2015, @06:31AM
here are plenty of situations where I'd drop bombs on a city knowing civilians would be in the target area.
Then you, sir, are a war criminal, in thought if not in deed, and I hope and pray that you are never in a position to do more. Why would you be willing to bomb innocent Americans, just because they happen to live in Texas? This is a violation of the laws of war, the laws of armed conflict, and the laws of humanity. I can only hope you remain a mindless conservative on the internets, and so never have to suffer the actual liability for your criminal thoughts. Oh, and you were damn lucky your parents didn't abort you, because if they had know then, what we know now, .. . . . Nah, still not enough, without the actual war crimes. In the meanwhile, I will just pity you, you mindless coward.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday November 28 2015, @07:54AM
Try watching some History Channel sometimes dummy. Lots of airmen flew missions over hostile cities and did their job. They knew those factories had a lot of 'civilians' working in them, some might have even known about the forced prisoner labor the Axis were using. The also knew a lot of bombs were going to fall off target. They did their job because it had to be done. Because a lot of people were depending on not having to face the war materials those factories were cranking out. And yes that even included firebombing a few entire cities off the map. Not to mention the crews who dropped the big ones and ended the damned war without the horrific loss of life an invasion of the Japanese mainland would have involved. Maybe you are the sort of asshole who wouldn't thank one of those guys for their service, I'm certainly not.
I'm glad we aren't having this conversation in German. That means that morally I have to be willing to do it if the situation again called for it, otherwise I'm just happy other people did something I wouldn't do and that would be wrong. How about you? If you drew the Enola Gay would you fly the mission or refuse and accept the consequences?
Eventually we will get into another total war like that. History hasn't ended, the horsemen will ride again, probably sooner than most people think. And with luck idiots like you will remain free because we will still have people willing to do what it takes to win.
As for bombing Texas, probably not. Only got the joy of living in Texas for a few years but I'm only a few miles across the border. More likely I'd be on the Texas side if the poop hit the fan. If you have ever lived there you understand, if not you probably can't. Would I press the bomb release over NY to save Dallas or Houston? Damn right. So lets not have a rematch of the War of Northern Aggression, K? 'specially seeing as your side is full of pansies like yourself..... just sayin. :) Ain't like we don't have plenty of external enemies to worry about at this particular time.
And yea I'm just fine with killing ISIS. They rape children, crucify people and such. They commit crimes the Nazis at least had the sense to do in secret and they post the video to YouTube themselves. Ain't a one of em I want being allowed to return to civilization so they need to die. Those folks done gone rabid and there is only one solution to that problem, put them down. That is just a hard reality and the sooner we as a world face up to it and put an end to their madness the lower the total body count will be. Meaning every death between now and then should be equally credited to both ISIS and the Progressives/Socialists of the world.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday November 28 2015, @08:06AM
War criminals. Why do you think the "greatest generation" did not talk much about what they had done? They knew, unlike an armchair warrior like yourself. Vietnam vets never were called "baby-killers" by hippies, as Trump-style revisionist history holds, no, they accused themselves, and America did almost nothing to help them. The American vets from the latest American Imperialist Wars have similiar issues. Some of them are talking about it. Never again?
And, it is nice to get to know you, jmorris. But at the same time, kind of creepy.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday November 28 2015, @03:01PM
Why do you think the "greatest generation" did not talk much about what they had done?
Because it was horrible? That is why we thank them for their service instead of saying "Aw fuck dude, you got all the fun!" Which is why civilization depends on finding such as they every generation, those willing to accept the duty of doing whatever is required to make sure the generation after them is part of the same civilization. When that doesn't happen Mother Nature says "Next!" and another civilization gets a turn. So bottom line, are you glad Western Civ won the last round of survivor and the Axis were voted off the planet? And which side are you rooting for in the coming round? More important perhaps, are you wiling to go all in, stop being a spectator and suit up if the crap hits the fan? Because the Bear is loose again, the Dragon is watching for an opportunity and the Muslim Bros are making a bold play. Somebody wins, many will lose. Or perhaps we get lucky and somebody sane takes power in the West before all Hell breaks loose and finds the wisdom to chart a path through the next decade that doesn't involve a billion plus dead. Stranger things have happened.
That sane path probably involves killing a few tens of thousands now to put out the fires in the Middle East before it explodes into mega violence. Specifically killing each and every member of ISIS we can put a crosshair on and making Iran's Nuke program 'perfectly safe' in the Douglas Adams sense. Were we to do that, and in a splashy and no fucks given enough way, the Middle East would calm back down as the Muslim Bros realized their dream of a restored Caliphate wasn't happening this generation, Putin would see we were no longer in a mood for foolishness and China realize the window for expansion opportunities had closed. It would restore certainty to the world, which is what is greatly to be desired. Uncertainty invites adventurism and with modern weapons that gets lots of folks dead.
(Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Sunday November 29 2015, @12:12AM
That sane path probably involves killing a few tens of thousands now to put out the fires in the Middle East before it explodes into mega violence.
Yeah, because that whole world police thing has worked out the last thousand times we've tried it. Well, you know what they say: If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try again. I can't wait for the government to blow even more taxpayer money on pointless wars.
(Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Saturday November 28 2015, @10:24AM
Oh, the horsemen are just saddling up!
This is the endless human tragedy. We kill, then they kill, then we get nukes, then they get nukes, and we a have a bit of a cold war, with consequences to which our friendly local philosopher from Samos eluded.
They commit crimes the Nazis at least had the sense to do in secret and they post the video to YouTube themselves.
I find this disturbing as well. Why do they broadcast it so? Are they serious?
I guess I'm awake at such an odd hour because I can't find them serious. Gas prices are at a low I haven't seen since I returned to Western civilization, since at least 2002. Daesh is known for making a profit by selling oil. That why I must repeat: the horsemen are saddling up, and this time it may be for the last time.
Maybe I've been playing too much Fallout, but my mentat computer is going crazy. Something big will happen, and soon. I just checked Google News and nothing yet. We'll see, I suppose.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday November 28 2015, @12:46PM
Then you, sir, are a war criminal, in thought if not in deed
So what? It's pretty clear that the term, "war criminal" has no serious meaning in your hands.