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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday December 02 2015, @04:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the desktop-nirvana dept.

E20 is out. Straight from the horse's mouth:

The E20 development cycle has come to a close, with 1890 patches submitted by over 50 developers in the course of 441 days.
25+ reported Coverity analyzer issues and 165 tickets were addressed during this time (based on commit message tagging).
I'd like to personally thank everyone who contributed, whether by submitting patches, writing documentation, reporting bugs, or simply providing feedback on IRC.
The bug reporting MVP for this cycle was @ApB with 231 submitted tickets: an impressive echievement, though I regret that only about 70% of these tickets were able to be solved.

Release Highlights

  • Full Wayland support
  • New screen management infrastructure and dialog
  • New audio mixer infrastructure and gadget
  • Many internal widgets replaced with Elementary
  • Improved FreeBSD support
  • Geolocation module

The complete log can be seen here.

Every time they release a new major version I feel compelled to try it, then I remember why I don't dig Enlightenment. It's just too hardcore a desktop environment for me. Any of you lot use it regularly or do I have company in my ass-pansy-ness?


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @05:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @05:31AM (#270507)

    There are 2 distros that I know of that were developed around the Enlightenment desktop environment.

    Elive started out as payware and has since become a gratis, community-driven project.

    Bodhi (Sanskrit for "Enlightenment") is another.
    Last Spring, Jeff Hoogland, chief developer of Bodhi Linux, became disenchanted with the Enlightenment developers' choices and their lack of responsiveness to feedback.
    He then forked E17.

    Introducing the Moksha Desktop [bodhilinux.com]

    The E18 desktop was so bad [that] Bodhi skipped it entirely[...]. When E19 released in the fall of 2014 it did make things better, but that was not difficult considering the mess E18 was.
    [...]
    I spent hours working with the upstream developers and filing bug reports [for E19]. The biggest issue was that almost none of the Enlightenment developers were using E19 as their daily desktop. As soon as it was released, they jumped on to their next rewrite--E20.
    [...]
    E19 was no longer as lightweight and it performed very poorly on older hardware.

    On top of the performance issues, E19 did not allow for me personally to have the same workflow I enjoyed under E17 due to features it no longer had. Because of this I had changed to using the E17 on all of my Bodhi 3 computers--even my high end ones. This got me to thinking how many of our existing Bodhi users felt the same way
    [...]
    [When our users agreed with me,] that left only one question: What was to be done about it? After much reflection, I came to the same conclusion others had before me that lead to the creation of the MATE and Trinity desktops--fork it.

    So, if you like the notion of Enlightenment but the new release doesn't butter your biscuit, there's something else for you to try.

    -- gewg_

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:08AM

    by Bot (3902) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:08AM (#270536) Journal

    Void linux has also an E19 live desktop image, i guess it's going to get E20 soon.
    It's preconfigured but installing needs a couple manual passages (IIRC there was no user account, only root in sh)

    I liked it but I didn't like the file manager.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 02 2015, @03:21PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 02 2015, @03:21PM (#270715) Journal

      Yeah, that default file manager really isn't much use. What's it even called? "Enlightenment File Manager". There's not even a name on the window!

      I find myself using PCManFM most of the time, unless I want a Norton Commander clone, then I use MC.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:35AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:35AM (#270539) Journal

    Hmm, I was wondering why I like the latest Bodhi. None of the earlier problems with Enlightenment crashing, demons of the Avici hells escaping onto the desktop, hands being chewed off, and having to press and hold the power button with my nose. None of those problems.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by zafiro17 on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:48AM

    by zafiro17 (234) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:48AM (#270542) Homepage

    Bodhi user here - it's my current distro, and I used it extensively on a little netbook from 2008-2013, give or take (can't remember when I started, but I ended when the hardware died). Bodhi is a good little distro, and Moksha - basically E17 is very usable. I prefer KDE over Gnome but lately can't get KDE to run well on any of my hardware, and I just don't like Gnome. Moksha gives me what I need: multiple desktops, traditional taskbar, a good Application menu, and above all, the excellent "Run Anything" (like Quicksilver on Mac or Alt-F2 but far, far better). I don't need much more in a desktop, and it's far lighter than the other big desktops (but not as light as LXDE). It's got enough eye candy to be gorgeous without going crazy and entering the world of "eye candy for the sake of eye candy, i.e. wobbly windows").

    Highly recommended.

    --
    Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis - Jack Handey
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @12:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @12:39PM (#270598)

      but if the window is not wobbly, how do you know it's a real object?

  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:38PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:38PM (#271027)

    Enlightenment is buggy on Debian and it's derivatives (Ubuntu and so on...) since the EFL is being developed on Arch linux and is constantly depended on the latest kernel, xserver, wayland, systemd, pulseaudio and so on...

    By the way, most of the non-affiliated (with Red Hat / Debian / Ubuntu) linux development is currently being carried out using Arch linux. I'll spare you the politics and bad blood and just say that the AUR lets developers circumvent distribution packagers and release on their own development schedule rather than the distribution's.

    There's also a case to be made regarding the ineffectiveness of backporting security patches in the kernel but that argument is getting right up there with "Think of the Children!" so I'll just drop the subject altogether.

    Personally, I use Terminology, i3 and Firefox.

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