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posted by azrael on Wednesday December 02 2015, @08:45PM   Printer-friendly

Police are attending a shooting in California, with reports of 20 victims, say officials.

From the BBC:

Fire officials in San Bernardino said it was responding to a "20 victim shooting incident" and it was working to clear the scene.

ABC News reports that there are 12 people dead but police have not confirmed that number.

It is still a "very active scene" and police are trying to secure the building, said a police spokeswoman.

There may be up to three gunmen, she said, and they were heavily armed and possibly wearing body armour.

-- submitted from IRC

Update 1: BBC Live stream updates


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:37AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:37AM (#271172) Journal

    Everytown for gun safety is NOT a reliable source of information. I gotta head out to work, I'll probably look at that PDF in the morning, but that group is most definitely NOT RELIABLE. They tell bald faced lies, and expect everyone to believe them.

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  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday December 03 2015, @09:19AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday December 03 2015, @09:19AM (#271267) Journal

    They tell bald faced lies, and expect everyone to believe them.

    Hey! I know someone like that! Can't put my finger on a name just now, but he posts an awful lot on a news site called SoylentNews. Starts with an "s" if I recall correctly. I could be wrong.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:38PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:38PM (#271387) Journal

      Uhhhh - how 'bout MOOZLEMS!? These shooters are MUZZIES! And, MSM is trying to hush that up. "Workplace violence" they say. The Imam - errr - PRESIDENT is hushing that bit up too. Isn't THAT interesting? No rednecked, white conservative Christian heterosexual this time around.

      Geez, I can't WAIT til they bring 30, 50, or 150 thousand more REFUGEES over here.

      How you say that? Je suis Paris?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @06:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @06:51PM (#271489)

        Uhhhh - how 'bout MOOZLEMS!? These shooters are MUZZIES! And, MSM is trying to hush that up. "Workplace violence" they say. The Imam - errr - PRESIDENT is hushing that bit up too.

        Where the hell are you getting your information from? The headline I saw yesterday said the President thinks it may have been terrorism, but it was too early in the investigation to tell. Also, the news today is reporting the names and Muslim identities of the shooters; I really don't see much of an effort to cover anything up.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:08PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:08PM (#271502) Journal

          Information from several sources. The couple are newly weds - their marriage was an arranged marriage, and he went to Saudi Arabia to pick her up, brought her back to the US, knocked her up, out popped a baby, and six months later, they decide to kill a bunch of infidels. Oh - Saudi Arabia. Same place some of those 9/11 jihadists came from, right? He was "very religious", according to some. CAIR has done a news conference thing, in which they pretend to not know whether he was religious and/or religiously motivated. Just do a news search on those scum - evem MSM is carrying some of the details.

          http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/syed-farook-tashfeen-malik-mass-shooting-profile/index.html?eref=edition [cnn.com]

          But, seriously, do a search, and read a couple dozen sources. You may treat all of the US MSM as a single source, dive into some of the alternate sources instead.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:25PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:25PM (#271512)

            But, seriously, do a search, and read a couple dozen sources. You may treat all of the US MSM as a single source, dive into some of the alternate sources instead.

            You are just bolstering my case even further. I don't see any evidence for a cover up. No effort to try to conceal their Muslim identities. No effort by the President to avoid the terrorism label. So, what the hell are you on about? But go ahead and keep digging, if you must. I'm sure you will get to China in no time.

        • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:11PM

          by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Thursday December 03 2015, @07:11PM (#271504)

          The headline I saw yesterday said the President thinks it may have been terrorism, but it was too early in the investigation to tell. Also, the news today is reporting the names and Muslim identities of the shooters; I really don't see much of an effort to cover anything up.

          In the right wing blogosphere (and Fox News), investigating and gathering all the facts before making conclusions instead of immediately jumping to the conclusion that best suits their agenda is tantamount to a coverup. Fear and Bias!