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HGST, a division of Western Digital, has announced its second 10 terabyte helium-filled hard drive. The Ultrastar Archive Ha10 , announced back in June, was a shingled magnetic recording (SMR) drive. Now HGST has launched the Ultrastar He10, a 10 TB helium-filled HDD using traditional perpendicular magnetic recording (PMR). With a total of 7 platters, each platter stores around 1.43 TB. AnandTech reports:
Hard drives are struggling to reach the 10TB capacity point with traditional PMR technology. While Seagate did announce a few 8TB PMR drives earlier this quarter, it really looks like vendors need to move to some other technology (shingled magnetic recording or heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR)) in order to keep the $/TB metric competitive against the upcoming high-capacity SSDs. As of now, helium seems to be the only proven solution causing minimal performance impact and HGST appears to have a strong hold in this particular market segment.
Ars Technica has some speculation about the price:
There's no price listed for the Ultrastar He10, but it'll probably cost about £600/$800. The first helium-filled drives were extortionately expensive, but the He8 is now down to around £400/$550, which isn't bad for an enterprise drive (these things have a 5-year warranty and other such niceties, too). Seagate's shingled 8TB drive is much cheaper (£170/$200), but you get a shorter warranty and less enterprisey stuff.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Thursday December 03 2015, @08:17PM
That's a fact, pretty much anything Seagate over 500GB? Its a dead drive walking. I've thrown so many of those damned drives away from people's PCs that when somebody brings in a PC with a failing drive? I just automatically assume its a Seagate and am right a good 9 times out of 10, they are just fucking garbage.
But something many guys here may not know is WHY they are garbage, after all once upon a time Seagate Barracuda was THE drive to get, especially among gamers and those that really worked the hell out of their drives...so what happened? Well this is the rumor that went around the builders forums but considering how many times their rumors turn out to be better than other places facts? I tend to believe its true. Anyway the skinny is that when Seagate bought Maxtor they got a REALLY cheap ARM controller out of the deal, we're talking so cheap you could build 4 Maxtor controllers for the price of a single Seagate controller, so what was the catch? The catch was to drive costs that low they pretty much skimped on everything including safety features for the chip and the drive and when that little ARM chip got hot? Not only would it keep getting hotter and hotter until it cooked itself but once it got warm it tended to lose its little mind and would forget the drive layout so it would bash the heads against the spindle and just shit data anywhere.
Now remember how when the Seagate 1TB drives first came out it was a crapshoot whether you got one that worked or crapped out? That was because they were using up the Seagate controllers and switching to the Maxtor, there was even a list on the builders forums of what batches to look for so you could get one with a Seagate controller. Now when management found out, being the greedy assholes that they were, they refused to go back to the Seagate controllers or give the engineers time to try to figure out a way to fix the Maxtor controller, instead they forced the engineers to try to "fix it with firmware". Remember when all those sites were advising Seagate owners to update their firmware, which until then was something enthusiasts only ever did? Yeah that was them trying to patch it out, which just like the Nvidia/HP "bumpgate patch" was really just them trying to jury rig the drive so it would last just long enough to get past warranty, IIRC all they did was crank up the head parking and low power state which wears out the motors quicker but lets the drive cool off in the short term which they hoped would keep them alive just long enough to get 'em past the warranty.
So if you want to know why Seagate sucks to this very day and why I'll happily buy a used Samsung or Hitachi over a new Seagate at the shop? There ya go, the management there is so fucking greedy that they are still using the Maxtor shit controllers because it "saves" them a few Shekels in BOM while passing on the true cost to the customer. That is also why certain Seagate drives are still good such as the Seagate 500GB, the Maxtor drive wouldn't play nice with the thin design of the Seagate single platter drives (remember the Maxtor has heat issues and the single platters really doesn't give any room for dissipating heat) so they kept the Seagate controller on those drives. So if you want to know in terms of how reliable I rank drives based on what I've seen at the shop? Samsung, Hitachi, Toshiba, WD, and dead last Seagate. the Samsung line was built like damn tanks, still have a ton of them running in industrial settings and was impressed enough I still have 3TB of my 6TB in my personal PC running Samsung, Hitachi and Toshiba and both rock solid, WD is more iffy than the first 3 but their externals seem to hold up rather well, and Seagate? Well the only thing I use them for is scratch drives for customers that make large temp files like my engineer and audio/visual customers, I wouldn't trust actual important data to 'em.
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(Score: 1) by J053 on Friday December 04 2015, @01:21AM
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday December 04 2015, @12:52PM
Their Constellation drives are using the Seagate NOT the Maxtor controller, so that really is not surprising. Its a damned shame but when the bought Maxtor everybody thought it would end up with Seagate quality being brought to Maxtor which would then be the "value" line, kinda like Squier is to Fender, instead Maxtor brought the consumer side of Seagate down to their craptastic level.
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