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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday December 03 2015, @01:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the apparently-not-well-at-all dept.

The Guardian reports on a multi-national survey by the Ipsos Mori market research company, comparing people's perception of a number of national statistics with the actual statistics. There's also an interactive quiz which allows you to feel superior to your countrymen. Some of the findings:

  • In most countries, people overestimate the number of immigrants, often by large margins. In USA, the average guess was 33%, the real figure is 14.3%.
  • Similarly, most countries grossly overestimate the number of atheists and agnostics.
  • The country with the most accurate self-perception was South Korea, followed by Ireland and Poland.
  • Mexico, India, and Brazil were the most inaccurate.
  • Britain ranked mid-table in 16th place, while the US was fifth.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:15PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:15PM (#271370) Journal

    I think South Korea did so well because they nailed the obesity question. I think it's no coincidence that China, Japan, and India were the only to overestimate obesity.

    One question is "What proportion of the total household wealth do you think the wealthiest 1% should own?" Since that is an opinion, I hope it wasn't factored into the ignorance index.

    It would be nice to see the atheist/agnostic question reranked by multiplier. Which would have India topping the list along with Saudi Arabia, etc. So I will do that in a moment.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:27PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:27PM (#271379) Journal

    Sorted by the % of atheists/agnostics guests divided by the actual amount yields a more interesting list:

    33    0.1    330        India
    15    1    15        Turkey
    12    1    12        Saudi Arabia
    31    3    10.3333        Serbia
    28    3    9.33333        Peru
    25    3    8.33333        Montenegro
    35    5    7        Mexico
    34    6    5.66667        Ireland
    16    3    5.33333        Israel
    35    8    4.375        Brazil
    26    6    4.33333        Poland
    28    7    4        Colombia
    38    10    3.8        Norway
    35    12    2.91667        Argentina
    35    12    2.91667        Italy
    45    16    2.8125        Russia
    40    16    2.5        United States
    36    15    2.4        South Africa
    44    19    2.31579        Spain
    35    16    2.1875        Chile
    39    19    2.05263        Hungary
    45    24    1.875        Australia
    45    25    1.8        Great Britain
    41    24    1.70833        Canada
    46    28    1.64286        France
    44    27    1.62963        Sweden
    38    25    1.52        Germany
    49    37    1.32432        New Zealand
    37    29    1.27586        Belgium
    50    42    1.19048        Netherlands
    57    52    1.09615        China
    53    57    0.92982        Japan
    42    46    0.91304        South Korea

    Atheists are like boogeymen in India, Turkey, Saudia Arabia, Serbia, Peru, etc.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:31PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday December 03 2015, @03:31PM (#271384) Journal

      *guessed

      The accuracy may be off, since it seems to be rounded to the nearest integer for every country except India, but the ranking should be correct.

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    • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 04 2015, @03:14AM

      by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday December 04 2015, @03:14AM (#271675) Homepage Journal

      I just want to mention one thing - no one reads The Guardian in India. There is no circulation of The Guardian in India and has never been.

      The only people who are reading The Guardian are then responding to this poll are highly educated, mostly Non-Resident Indians (NRI), i.e., highly educated immigrants to other countries. For that to happen they were 100% born in highly educated family who were also well to do to give such education to them.

      If you ask their parents they will have better idea about actual India. People responding to this poll are a representative of what education does to people.

      On a side note, people's awareness about how many women are in parliament and how many women are working only reflects the pro-women bias in media that is obsessed with feminism and never reports on male issues.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday December 04 2015, @03:52AM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday December 04 2015, @03:52AM (#271689) Journal

        This poll has nothing to do with The Guardian. It was conducted by the Ipsos Mori market research company.

        Maybe you are right about the poll, but it's on the pollster to take a representative sample. There are methods to help do so.

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        • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 04 2015, @09:02AM

          by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday December 04 2015, @09:02AM (#271737) Homepage Journal

          Hmmm. I didn't know that. I still don't believe it is a representative of extremely populous countries like India or Brazil.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @04:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 03 2015, @04:05PM (#271409)

    One question is "What proportion of the total household wealth do you think the wealthiest 1% should own?"

    Where do you get that from? On the quiz page I get: "What proportion of Germany's total household wealth do you think the wealthienst 1% own?" No "should" anywhere.
    In the article the question is given as: "What proportion of your country’s total household wealth do you think the wealthiest 1% own?" Again, no "should" in sight.