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posted by cmn32480 on Friday December 04 2015, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-will-just-have-to-hubble-along dept.

From Nature.com:

Hawaii's supreme court has ruled that the construction permit for the Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) on top of the mountain Mauna Kea is invalid. The 2 December decision is a major blow to the international consortium backing the US$1.5-billion telescope, and a win for the Native Hawaiians who have protested against its construction on what they regard as a sacred summit.

And the top reddit comment on the article, which I found neatly summed up the situation.

I spent time in Hawaii and talked to locals that were born and raised there about this issue. Its polarizing.

People against it brought up the need for spirituality and respect for the Hawaiian culture lost over hundred of years of Western influence.

Argument for the telescope, however, claimed that building it would do nothing but respect their history. How did the ancient Hawaiians get to the island? They used the stars. It was "in their blood" to understand the heavens. Most of the those complaining are young disenfranchised people struggling in one of the crappiest economies in America.

Of course this could be a generalization based on second hand observation.

As for me, as big as these telescopes are, they look like ants on top of these massive volcanoes. Ruining the scenery is nonsense.

We covered the Groundbreaking for World's Largest Telescope nearly a month ago.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @04:49AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @04:49AM (#272085)

    You are really laying it on pretty thick. I was born on the big island and know plenty of people who live in mansions and there is definitely no shortage of golf resorts.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @04:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @04:54AM (#272086)

    Are you kidding? I drove all around that island to visit the volcano and I saw shacks and lava fields and macademia fields everywhere I looked. OK, Kona has an interesting strip, but even that wasn't luxury stuff.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @06:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @06:07AM (#272101)

      Wow you really don't know when to stop lying. You can see the volcano from nearly everywhere. There is no "drove all around the island". Be within a few miles of the shoreline and you can see the friggin thing.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:38PM (#272182)

        You made it up, didn't you. About growing up on Hawaii.

        Didn't you, you little liar. You grew up in the suburbs of Indiana and that's where you still are, in the exact same house 25 years later.