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posted by cmn32480 on Friday December 04 2015, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-will-just-have-to-hubble-along dept.

From Nature.com:

Hawaii's supreme court has ruled that the construction permit for the Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) on top of the mountain Mauna Kea is invalid. The 2 December decision is a major blow to the international consortium backing the US$1.5-billion telescope, and a win for the Native Hawaiians who have protested against its construction on what they regard as a sacred summit.

And the top reddit comment on the article, which I found neatly summed up the situation.

I spent time in Hawaii and talked to locals that were born and raised there about this issue. Its polarizing.

People against it brought up the need for spirituality and respect for the Hawaiian culture lost over hundred of years of Western influence.

Argument for the telescope, however, claimed that building it would do nothing but respect their history. How did the ancient Hawaiians get to the island? They used the stars. It was "in their blood" to understand the heavens. Most of the those complaining are young disenfranchised people struggling in one of the crappiest economies in America.

Of course this could be a generalization based on second hand observation.

As for me, as big as these telescopes are, they look like ants on top of these massive volcanoes. Ruining the scenery is nonsense.

We covered the Groundbreaking for World's Largest Telescope nearly a month ago.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @06:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @06:13AM (#272105)

    You go there and and set up camp and live for a number of years and work with the locals on what makes sense.

    Looks like the other guy was right.

    So how do you get things done in a situation like that?

    1. You pay off the protesters.
    2. You publicly agree to build a "community center" nearby.
    3. You guarantee a certain amount of the employment to locals.
    4. You establish a foundation to help poor members of the community.

    Or, in shorter terms, you grease palms. Lots and lots of palms.

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