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posted by cmn32480 on Friday December 04 2015, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-will-just-have-to-hubble-along dept.

From Nature.com:

Hawaii's supreme court has ruled that the construction permit for the Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) on top of the mountain Mauna Kea is invalid. The 2 December decision is a major blow to the international consortium backing the US$1.5-billion telescope, and a win for the Native Hawaiians who have protested against its construction on what they regard as a sacred summit.

And the top reddit comment on the article, which I found neatly summed up the situation.

I spent time in Hawaii and talked to locals that were born and raised there about this issue. Its polarizing.

People against it brought up the need for spirituality and respect for the Hawaiian culture lost over hundred of years of Western influence.

Argument for the telescope, however, claimed that building it would do nothing but respect their history. How did the ancient Hawaiians get to the island? They used the stars. It was "in their blood" to understand the heavens. Most of the those complaining are young disenfranchised people struggling in one of the crappiest economies in America.

Of course this could be a generalization based on second hand observation.

As for me, as big as these telescopes are, they look like ants on top of these massive volcanoes. Ruining the scenery is nonsense.

We covered the Groundbreaking for World's Largest Telescope nearly a month ago.


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  • (Score: 2) by lentilla on Saturday December 05 2015, @07:31AM

    by lentilla (1770) on Saturday December 05 2015, @07:31AM (#272119)

    I'd hate for the local folks who are interested in STEM careers to miss out on a great opportunity like this

    You are failing to see the upside of this. STEM is hard. You have to know; like; facts 'n stuff. And you can't argue your way out of a tight spot when the facts say otherwise, either.

    So, if you happen to be counselling young people as to a profitable career, now they have another option. In the past, you might have suggested law. Now you can also suggest religion as an alternative. Better yet: religion and law.

    Simply adjust reality to how you'd like it to be, find some kind of legal argument, and profit. No pesky realities (gravity, laws of physics, that kind of thing) need get in your way.

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