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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday December 05 2015, @01:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the you-want-fries-with-that dept.

NPR reports EU Investigating Tax Deal Between Luxembourg, McDonald's:

European regulators have launched an investigation into Luxembourg's tax treatment of McDonald's, saying the fast-food giant's franchise office has paid virtually no taxes on franchise profits it earned in Europe and Russia since 2009.

It's the latest in a series of investigations into corporate tax avoidance schemes by the European Commission, which has also targeted Starbucks and Apple.

"A tax ruling that agrees to McDonald's paying no tax on their European royalties either in Luxembourg or in the U.S. has to be looked at very carefully under EU state aid rules," said Commissioner Margrethe Vestager, who heads the European Commission's competition bureau.

Regulators say authorities in Luxembourg, where McDonald's Europe Franchising office is located, determined in March 2009 that the company should be exempt from corporate taxes because its profits were also taxed in the United States.

The company was required to submit proof every year that it actually paid US taxes on its profits, according to the statement. It stated:

"However, contrary to the assumption of the Luxembourg tax authorities when they granted the first ruling, the profits were not to be subjected to tax in the US. While under the proposed reading of Luxembourg law, McDonald's Europe Franchising had a taxable presence in the US, it did not have any taxable presence in the US under US law."

A subsequent ruling by Luxembourg in September 2009 said McDonald's no longer even had to submit proof it was paying U.S. taxes.

Since then, the company has paid no taxes on virtually all of its European income, despite hefty profits of 250 million euros in 2013 alone, the E.C. said. Investigators will determine whether this gave McDonald's an unfair advantage over its competitors, violating European law.

In a statement e-mailed to NPR, McDonald's said the allegations it paid no taxes are untrue:

"McDonald's complies with all tax laws and rules in Europe and pays a significant amount of corporate income tax. In fact, from 2010-2014, the McDonald's Companies paid more than $2.1 billion just in corporate taxes in the European Union, with an average tax rate of almost 27%.

Previously: Leaked Documents Expose Companies' Secret Tax Deals in Luxembourg
Multinationals Hiding more than USD$500 Billion from G20 Tax Collectors


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by jdavidb on Saturday December 05 2015, @01:38AM

    by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday December 05 2015, @01:38AM (#272041) Homepage Journal

    Tax avoidance is legal [wikipedia.org] and I condone it, even though regimes like the U.S. want you to think no matter where you go, once you are theirs you owe them taxes for eternity. Less taxes means less funding for the killing machine, less blowback, less war on drugs, less of all sorts of crap.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @02:08AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @02:08AM (#272050)

    Tax avoidance is more effective if you're a professional tap dancer. Those fuckers do whatever they please.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:17AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:17AM (#272068) Journal

    Well, we seem to be diametrically opposed in our view on taxes.

    McDonald's profits quite a lot on our city, state, and federal highway systems. I expect McDonald's to pay for the wear and tear on those systems.

    McDonald's profits from our electrical infrastructure. I expect McDonald's to pay for some of that.

    McDonald's profits from our police forces. I expect McDonald's to carry part of the burden for providing those police forces.

    Every time I read or hear about megacorporations sheltering their profits so that they don't pay taxes, I want to grab all the CEO's and board members, and choke their dumb asses. The bastards OWE those taxes, no matter how imaginatively they spend their bribe money. Similarly, I want to shoot all those idiot bastards who are busy moving manufacturing from the developed world to China and the undeveloped third world.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:37PM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:37PM (#272181) Homepage Journal
      Yes, most reasonable people are pretty much diametrically opposed to me. But it might be worth thinking about if you would accept slightly less quality in the systems you mentioned in exchange for eliminating the things I mentioned.
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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:57PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:57PM (#272191) Journal

        So then, what would "slightly less quality" entail? Instead of a bridge falling into a river once every decade, we accept two each decade? Infrastructure is expensive, even if you settle for cheap. And, cheap costs lives. So, how many lives is it worth for Mickey D not to pay taxes? And, Monsanto, and General Electric, and ConAgra, and - well, you should be getting the idea. If corporations aren't paying any taxes, how many lives is it worth?

        • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Sunday December 06 2015, @04:45AM

          by jdavidb (5690) on Sunday December 06 2015, @04:45AM (#272376) Homepage Journal
          Well, the truth is I think it would be better. If you're interested in some writing on the subject there's a whole book on roads by Dr. Walter Block. But suppose one falls in a river every decade and the tradeoff would be one every nine and a half years - in exchange for we quit the imperial military adventures that are claiming untold numbers of innocent lives and far more than each bridge collapse?
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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:59PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:59PM (#272215) Journal

      McDonald's profits quite a lot on our city, state, and federal highway systems. I expect McDonald's to pay for the wear and tear on those systems.
      McDonald's profits from our electrical infrastructure. I expect McDonald's to pay for some of that.
      McDonald's profits from our police forces. I expect McDonald's to carry part of the burden for providing those police forces.

      And they do pay for these things. But (to use some US-centric examples) why should anyone be bothered to pay $400 billion for fighter jets (the F-35) which don't work as advertised? Last I heard, the full extent of repairs needed for road systems in their entirety was on the order of a trillion dollars. Well, I think we could have redirected a little of that fighter jet money to road system, but we didn't. Or inefficient and ineffective public entitlements like Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid. Tax avoidance keeps more of our economy out of the morass of corruption and incompetence that are governments.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 05 2015, @07:25PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @07:25PM (#272248) Journal

        I can't - don't even want to - argue your point regarding the military industrial complex. But, really, that is a separate issue.
        Issue 1 is "ducking tax responsibility"
        Issue 2 is "wasting money on unnecessary defense spending"
        Issue 3 is "fraudulent military industrial complex billing"

        I can't simply excuse issue 1 because issues 2 and 3 exist. On a personal level, that is rather like,
        Gary is a thief
        Bill is a wife abuser
        Bill is a drug addict

        Because Bill is a drug addict, we should just dismiss the theivery and spousal abuse? I hardly think so. Not even if Gary stole something from Bill should we excuse the theivery.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 05 2015, @10:19PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @10:19PM (#272281) Journal
          My point is very important here. You are equating the small amount of important duties that governments with the vast amount of irresponsible, incompetent shenanigans they do. Why shouldn't I encourage tax avoidance? In the US budget, I can easily find well over half the budget that is waste. I can point to US regulations so monumentally wasteful and inhumane that everyone anywhere in the world suffers from them (for example, FDA regulations obstructing medical research, NSA spying, trade treaties that propagate ridiculous IP protection schemes).
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:53AM (#272080)
    You want a place with no taxes and no interference for the invisible hand? Move to Somalia today!
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:26AM (#272091)

      They are simply following the laws the governments have written. What do you want them to do, voluntarily pay more taxes than the law requires?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @02:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 05 2015, @02:24PM (#272166)
        Of course not. But that's not what the GP poster is advocating. They seem to be advocating the creation of enough loopholes in the tax codes of the government to keep it from doing what it does. Shrink the government enough that we can drown it in the bathtub as the famous adage goes. What I have to say to that is if you disagree with what your taxes are being used for, change your government to one that will use them the way you feel they should be used. Taxes are good: they buy you civilisation.
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:00PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:00PM (#272175) Journal

        You seem to have a somewhat simplistic view of government, and you believe government to be equally simple. Government didn't just write those laws that the mega-corps are taking advantage of. Instead, the mega-corps PAID FOR those laws. It's called bribery, and that is an offense that is punishable by law in almost all western societies. Bribery is accepted and expected in many other cultures and societies, but western society frowns upon bribery. In fact, we think bribery is such a low offense, that our government has laws to punish people for engaging in expected bribery when they travel overseas. Yet, a gaggle of rich bastards can dispatch hordes of "lobbyists" to Washington to purchase whichever laws they want purchased.

        Can you begin to see the hypocrisy here?

        • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:38PM

          by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday December 05 2015, @03:38PM (#272183) Homepage Journal
          That's why I don't think anybody should be granted the power to pass such laws. Then there's no reason to bribe anyone and McDonald's or whoever can just get back to making burgers and such.
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  • (Score: 2) by gnuman on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:58PM

    by gnuman (5013) on Saturday December 05 2015, @05:58PM (#272214)

    Less taxes means less funding for the killing machine, less blowback, less war on drugs, less of all sorts of crap.

    I think you are confusing taxes and wars. One has little to do with the other. Taxes don't fuel wars - people's ambitions and perceptions fuel wars. Are wars in Congo that killed millions fueled by taxes? No. How about Libya? Taxes? Don't think so.

    Was US war in Iraq fueled by taxes? HELL NO! It was fueled by Bushism and loans..

    Was WWII fueled by taxes?? .... right.. no.

    Last time governments had to raise taxes to pay for armies was back before effective governments existed, you know, middle ages in europe, where wars were constant. And if you think "tax avoidance" fixes this, you are sorely mistaken.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 05 2015, @10:27PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 05 2015, @10:27PM (#272284) Journal

      Are wars in Congo that killed millions fueled by taxes? No.

      It seems strange that you would claim the answer is "no". Ambition and perception doesn't create weapons or the other logistics you need to maintain an army.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Sunday December 06 2015, @04:50AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Sunday December 06 2015, @04:50AM (#272381) Homepage Journal
      Well, that's true, the other funding sources that are utilized are far, far worse... But eventually there is an end to it all, and the sooner the better.
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  • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Sunday December 06 2015, @12:22AM

    by shortscreen (2252) on Sunday December 06 2015, @12:22AM (#272306) Journal

    When did the feds ever let lack of revenue prevent them from doing a thing that they wanted to do? They might use that as an excuse to cut things that they never really cared about in the first place, but they certainly aren't shy about taking on more debt to fund eg. the Iraq war.