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posted by martyb on Tuesday December 08 2015, @05:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the emulate-this! dept.

Microsoft may have sidelined its effort to allow Android apps to run unmodified on Windows 10. But Windows users have been able to do this on PCs for over a year at very low cost - thanks to a cunning virtualization project.

DuOS, or AmiDuOS, is an emulator that provides excellent compatibility for Android apps on the desktop. And perhaps unsurprisingly it survived an interesting history of tussles with Google before staking its claim.

[...] If this is the shape of things to come, it poses some intriguing strategic questions for Microsoft. Microsoft risks losing the developer client base that it has been able to take for granted for two decades. Windows has a huge app gap, and is marginal in mobile and tablets. Ideally, Microsoft wants developers to write to a Universal API that is compatible across Windows PCs and ARM-based mobile devices such as tablets and phones. But the apps have already been written, in Java, for Android.

Credit: Posted by RS Wood on comp.misc

Related: Steve Balmer: Use Android to Save Windows Phone


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  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday December 09 2015, @03:23AM

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday December 09 2015, @03:23AM (#273774)

    Wait... By saying broken 1970's Unix kernel design, do you mean the POSIX standard/Unix architecture or something else pertaining to the Linux kernel design itself?

    I'm referring to the laundry list of what Plan 9 is that Linux isn't. It's an outdated, broken design and I'm personally not comfortable advocating it over an equally broken design such as the Jvm.

    And the JVM is not a kernel so you can't really compare the two

    As far as I'm concerned, any layer of abstraction aiming at isolating the next layer \ it's users from the previous layer \ hardware is comparable. The Jvm is comparable to the linux kernel since they both manage memory and aim to abstract hardware using their own metaphor. Some programming language could even fit this classification provided their memory management model was designed isolated from the OS rather than a part of it. So, C won't fit since it's runtime largely depends on what the OS and architecture is doing but Go and Java do.

    The reason I wished for a GNU/Linux OS was to allow the GNU/Linux & Android projects to be developed in parallel.

    So, like, Windows 8? Look, we have Qt, Gnome and EFL on linux just to name a few... A dozen more specialty libraries times a dozen more cases. "developed in parallel" would just have meant more libraries not the same libraries.

    My only wish is Google opens an operating system research laboratory, puts Rob Pike in charge of it and they reexamine the ideas behind Plan 9 and Inferno and make something that will save us from the Apple, MS and Red Hat OS kludges.

    Plan 9 was pretty much the end all to be all OS. It's only flaw was the overbearing weight of 9P. It's one thing to decide internally on keeping all your kernel and network interfaces exposed to the user-land in a uniform, network-transparent protocol. But, it's a whole other thing to start weaving it into the user-land to the point your text editor has it's windows and menus mountable in the file system and it was the only way to customize it.

    Sometimes, I dare say, It was nearly as bad as Java: My joke of the day was that I'll need to write a ./ctl/in, a ./out and a ./err in an "hello world" for it to be a proper Plan 9 software :D

    Regardless, Go fits the bills here. It's it's own little OS. Complete with it's own concurrency and memory management. I don't care if my runtime targets hardware or software defined logics nowadays anyhow considering Intel has Micro-controllers embedded in the motherboard and secret magic sauce firmwares ROMs burned right in the CPU.
    Why, even our x86 assembly is broken apart into machine code and not in a 1:1 fashion since there are thousands of possible machine instruction. And later, it's further broken apart into even lower level RISC like microcode... So, Go's on-top of the OS's drivers but still native code seems quite minimal and reasonable when compared to all of that and the Jvm.

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  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday December 09 2015, @05:44PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Wednesday December 09 2015, @05:44PM (#274025) Journal

    I like your thinking. Believe me, I know we have a software bloat problem. A really big one. My suggesting Linux was merely one of practicality, something that would be taken seriously by the current industry.

    As for plan9, someone needs to make it happen. The only second system that did the inverse of second system effect, it was actually much, much simpler and fixed the broken unix model.

    Ever read up on the styx on a brick project? Really neat stuff right there. 9p really can do it all. Wish my phone exposed its file system via 9p so I can view my pictures via phone/camera/pictures/ instead of the idiotic MTP protocol, another fuking brain dead protocol that masquerades as a storage device but isnt. FFS, How many file protocols do we need? Then my phone connects via USB to my car radio but I can't control the music player unless it's the app that comes with the dumb radio. Why? yet another fucking protocol. Just expose the audio and player controls as files via 9p and your done. At that point everything can be controlled by shell scripts if need be. What is the current song playing: cat phone/musicplayer/playing. Skip to next track: echo next_track > phone/musicplayer/control. Need the audio stream: mediaplayer phone/audio/audio_stream. Want to adjust the 3 band EQ: echo "3, -1, 4" > phone/musicplayer/eq. Want to save the eq setting: cat phone/musicplayer/eq > fav_eq.txt. Bought an IP security camera and want to see the video: vlc ipcamera1/video. And the list of what it can solve goes on and on and on. Might not cover every case. But can certainly cover a vast majority of little day to day things that drive me up the wall needing a plethora of mutually incompatible libraries that need linking and software to use them. The computing world would be a much better place. Sorry for the rant but I'm tired of the shitty software world.