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posted by CoolHand on Thursday December 10 2015, @01:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the political-genius dept.

At one of his campaign rallies, Republican Presidential Candidate Donald J. Trump advocated shutting down parts of the Internet as a response to radicalism:

As the video below shows, Trump told a rally that "We are losing a lot of people to the Internet. We have to do something. We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening."

"We have to talk to them [about], maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way."

"Some people will say, 'Freedom of speech, Freedom of speech'," Trump added, before saying "These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

[More after the Break]

In two tweets, Trump turned his attention to Jeff Bezos's taxes:

The @washingtonpost, which loses a fortune, is owned by @JeffBezos for purposes of keeping taxes down at his no profit company, @amazon.

The @washingtonpost loses money (a deduction) and gives owner @JeffBezos power to screw public on low taxation of @Amazon! Big tax shelter

Finally, a Trump campaign statement released on Monday calls for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

Trump is in good company when it comes to clamping down on free speech. In the wake of the San Bernardino attack, both President Obama and Hillary Clinton have hinted at renewing the war against encryption and denying "online space" to ISIS:

In his Oval Office speech on Sunday night about the fight against ISIS, President Obama devoted one line in his speech to the topic. "I will urge high-tech and law enforcement leaders to make it harder for terrorists to use technology to escape from justice," he said.

Meanwhile, Clinton, the Democratic presidential frontrunner, gave a talk at the Brookings Institution where she urged tech companies to deny ISIS "online space," and waved away concerns about First Amendment issues.

"We're going to have to have more support from our friends in the technology world to deny online space. Just as we have to destroy [ISIS's] would-be caliphate, we have to deny them online space," she said.


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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Non Sequor on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:14AM

    by Non Sequor (1005) on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:14AM (#274205) Journal

    He thinks Bill Gates runs the Internet.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:39AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:39AM (#274211) Journal

    Yeah, "really understands the internet". I wonder how many people really do understand the internet. That seems to be one underlying theme that a lot of hacker movies do get right. "The man", the authorities, as well as the inventors of the internet think they understand the internet, but the real denizens of the online world understand it much better.

    Did Henry Ford understand cars better, or did the people who started modifying and racing the cars understand them better?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @02:54AM (#274222)

      From a technical and topological standpoint the only people that really do understand the internet are the network engineering specialists at backbone providers. Not even full-stack pros with decades of experience can touch their level of knowledge.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @03:51AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @03:51AM (#274254)

        Not really. There's plenty of material out there if you wish to learn, and you don't need a specific job to do so.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @04:08AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @04:08AM (#274264)

          That does not make the slightest bit of sense. Who do you think knows more about medical care: a degreed, licensed doctor with decades of practice or someone that just likes reading medical journals?

          • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday December 10 2015, @06:11AM

            by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Thursday December 10 2015, @06:11AM (#274289) Homepage Journal

            That does not make the slightest bit of sense. Who do you think knows more about medical care: a degreed, licensed doctor with decades of practice or someone that just likes reading medical journals?

            Bite your tongue! We know who has the real 411! [theatlantic.com]

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @08:41AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @08:41AM (#274337)

              I don't think she reads medical journals. Maybe Dr. Oz's latest book, assuming she's literate.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:12AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:12AM (#274345)

            That does not make the slightest bit of sense.

            Of course it does. You just happen to be someone who incorrectly thinks that information only exists in universities and colleges.

            Who do you think knows more about medical care: a degreed, licensed doctor with decades of practice or someone that just likes reading medical journals?

            What a ridiculous example. Self-education isn't viable for all professions, but it's viable for many. It's viable for computer science and mathematics, for instance; you don't necessarily specialized equipment to learn about those things. It wouldn't be viable for a surgeon, because the stakes are not only much higher, but it would be difficult to get any practice. Understanding what makes the Internet work does not require specialized equipment or require you to have a specific job, but it can make it a bit easier. I'm tired of this "I wouldn't hire a programmer without a degree. Would you want a doctor without a degree?" nonsense; they compare totally different situations that have totally different consequences and require totally different skill sets.

            Maybe *you* are a hands-on learner and maybe *you* need formal education to learn anything, but just recognize that some people are different from you. Some people are actually curious about the world around them and have enough willpower to seek out the answers on their own. Others prefer formal education, which is fine for them. But don't adopt this deeply arrogant attitude that that's all there is.

          • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday December 10 2015, @10:35AM

            by deimtee (3272) on Thursday December 10 2015, @10:35AM (#274363) Journal

            You know, for common diseases or problems you definitely want a licensed doctor. But if you have a rare condition there is a pretty good chance that some guy who just enjoys reading all the medical journals is a better option.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:37AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:37AM (#274316)

    If i was Bill Gates, i'd tell Trump to shut the fuck up and not get me involved in his moronic ideas.

  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Thursday December 10 2015, @08:39AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Thursday December 10 2015, @08:39AM (#274336) Homepage

    Everyone knows it's Al Gore.

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  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:26PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:26PM (#274650)

    In defense of Trump's statement, that line went through three different focus groups repressing his demography without raising an eyebrow.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:29PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:29PM (#274651)

    Wait, has Bill Gates found out about the Internet? I see trouble on the road ahead.