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posted by CoolHand on Thursday December 10 2015, @01:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the political-genius dept.

At one of his campaign rallies, Republican Presidential Candidate Donald J. Trump advocated shutting down parts of the Internet as a response to radicalism:

As the video below shows, Trump told a rally that "We are losing a lot of people to the Internet. We have to do something. We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening."

"We have to talk to them [about], maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way."

"Some people will say, 'Freedom of speech, Freedom of speech'," Trump added, before saying "These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

[More after the Break]

In two tweets, Trump turned his attention to Jeff Bezos's taxes:

The @washingtonpost, which loses a fortune, is owned by @JeffBezos for purposes of keeping taxes down at his no profit company, @amazon.

The @washingtonpost loses money (a deduction) and gives owner @JeffBezos power to screw public on low taxation of @Amazon! Big tax shelter

Finally, a Trump campaign statement released on Monday calls for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

Trump is in good company when it comes to clamping down on free speech. In the wake of the San Bernardino attack, both President Obama and Hillary Clinton have hinted at renewing the war against encryption and denying "online space" to ISIS:

In his Oval Office speech on Sunday night about the fight against ISIS, President Obama devoted one line in his speech to the topic. "I will urge high-tech and law enforcement leaders to make it harder for terrorists to use technology to escape from justice," he said.

Meanwhile, Clinton, the Democratic presidential frontrunner, gave a talk at the Brookings Institution where she urged tech companies to deny ISIS "online space," and waved away concerns about First Amendment issues.

"We're going to have to have more support from our friends in the technology world to deny online space. Just as we have to destroy [ISIS's] would-be caliphate, we have to deny them online space," she said.


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  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday December 10 2015, @04:49AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday December 10 2015, @04:49AM (#274274) Homepage Journal

    Please pass this on to your tea-drinking friends.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by melikamp on Thursday December 10 2015, @05:56AM

    by melikamp (1886) on Thursday December 10 2015, @05:56AM (#274287) Journal
    Wow... Let me get this right... Because they consider Trump's speech 'hateful', they want to limit his freedom to travel? The petition does not really say what exactly the signatories find offensive, but since they hate freedoms of speech and movement, shouldn't they be Trump's biggest fans? *head asplodes*
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:37AM

      by sjames (2882) on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:37AM (#274317) Journal

      Ever met someone whose every utterance offended you? Did you invite him over for dinner or do you limit his right to travel by not welcoming him into your home?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @07:48AM (#274324)

        Why do you think that is okay to do to Trump but anyone with the same opinion on refugees you spit venom at? They are doing exactly what you want, just not to the person you want.

        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday December 11 2015, @01:47PM

          by sjames (2882) on Friday December 11 2015, @01:47PM (#274958) Journal

          I am looking at a particular individual who has been in the media for some time, and so I have plenty of examples of his personal character and finding it hard to blame the signors of the petition.

          That is quite distinct from passing judgement on an entire group of people based on the behavior of others.

      • (Score: 2) by melikamp on Friday December 11 2015, @06:40PM

        by melikamp (1886) on Friday December 11 2015, @06:40PM (#275088) Journal
        Do you see any difference between me banning Trump from my humble private residence, and UK banning Trump from the entire island? Private property versus public land and all that? Restriction on attendance versus the restriction on travel? My right to property versus Trump's right to travel?
        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday December 11 2015, @06:52PM

          by sjames (2882) on Friday December 11 2015, @06:52PM (#275095) Journal

          If he was a citizen there, it would make a big difference. There are a number of countries out there that people from other countries can't just drop in on. There are many more that have named specific people who are no longer welcome there.

          • (Score: 2) by melikamp on Friday December 11 2015, @08:38PM

            by melikamp (1886) on Friday December 11 2015, @08:38PM (#275139) Journal
            IMO, freedom to travel is a human right, and people should defend it across the globe. I am not concerned with the legality of this travel ban in UK, I am merely pointing out that Trump's haters actually hate human rights as much as he does. They are people who would deny you the freedom to move around because you say things that offend them. And why stop here? Given enough leverage, the same people would deprive you of property and life as well. They can take this petition and stuff it up their collective arse.
    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:18AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday December 10 2015, @09:18AM (#274347) Homepage Journal

      It was on my ex' greencard application.

      My landed immigrant application for Canada asked whether I'd ever committed such human rights violations as murdering a prisoner of war.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @10:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @10:41AM (#274365)

        Well, don't keep us in suspense, "Are you now or have you ever been?" what?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @05:15PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @05:15PM (#274522)

          My guess would be "communist".

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @06:18PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 10 2015, @06:18PM (#274559)

          Well, don't keep us in suspense, "Are you now or have you ever been?" what?

          A systemd fanboy.