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posted by martyb on Saturday December 26 2015, @12:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-run-DOS-in-a-browser dept.

Right now, Microsoft is inspiring horror stories with "forced upgrades" and/or incessant nagging to upgrade to Windows 10. Yet more horror stories are being generated with the invasive "telemetry", and the personalized advertising found within the OS.

In recent weeks, the wife has complained about the Windows 10 nag. She runs Win7 Home Premium, and got the nag until I "fixed" it. I run Win7 Pro in my virtual machines, and I don't get the nag. I got the telemetry updates, but not the nag.

Those of us over a certain age remember the original separation between enterprise grade Windows NT (NT3, NT4, Win2000) and the consumer grade Windows (Win 1, 2, 3, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE and Millenium) until they were joined together with WinXP. With WinXP, we saw the same OS used for consumer and enterprise, with advanced features enabled in Pro and Enterprise, and the same features disabled in consumer versions.

So, here we are today, with MS trying to phase out Win7, and force feeding Windows 10 to the world.

Going forward - is MS also going to force feed Win10 to the professional/enterprise world? Or, will they send the consumer and enterprise OS's down divergent paths? Are we going to see insecurity built into the consumer line of products, and better security and features built into the professional lines?

What does the future hold? Any guesses?

http://betanews.com/2015/09/16/microsoft-refuses-to-answer-questions-about-forced-windows-10-downloads/


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Saturday December 26 2015, @01:57AM

    by frojack (1554) on Saturday December 26 2015, @01:57AM (#281062) Journal

    I don't believe your prediction.

    Because its just too easy to switch to Linux these days, and with LibreOffice doing just about everything, 99.44% of every office workload can be run on Linux just fine.

    Custom windows application? Yeah that's a problem, but not an insurmountable one. You can run those in VMs

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2015, @02:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2015, @02:17AM (#281065)

    Well, here is my story. I myself use ThinkPads for the last *teen years so no issue here. Yes, sure, it's Linux.

    A year ago I bought a modern laptop for my girlfriend with Linux preinstalled. It took me 48 hours to get it right mostly because of wrong drivers and reminded me of win 98 nightmare. But I won, and she is happy, and the laptop is rock solid.

    She is my wife now and I just bought a laptop for her kid. Remembering the experience, I bought a windows laptop this time (yeah, I've read the reviews) with a plan to put Linux on it myself. The problem with the previous one was it was just too new and Linux drivers did not catch up yet. This time I bought a two years old one and thought it would be easy. Fat chance. It still took me 24 hours. The thing was fighting me real hard. Eventually I had to get a different bios on it and only then it worked or so I hope it will - it's a new year gift for the kid.

    I am so glad I've 3 old ThinkPads and hope to just keep upgrading them for the rest of my life.

  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:24AM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:24AM (#281084)
    How well do these VMs handle 3D... since, you know, most apps use 3D these days.
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    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:40AM

      by frojack (1554) on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:40AM (#281090) Journal

      Actuallty, they don't. Maybe games.
      But not your average business custom app.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Tork on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:46AM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 26 2015, @03:46AM (#281093)

        Actuallty, they don't. Maybe games. But not your average business custom app.

        Maybe five years ago, not today. Even Photoshop uses 3d accerlation, modern browsers use gpu acceleration, and these days there's not a whole lot left that doesn't use something. So I'm going to ask again: How does your approach handle this, seeing as how the big stereotype is that Linux 3d driver support is comical.

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by frojack on Saturday December 26 2015, @04:49AM

          by frojack (1554) on Saturday December 26 2015, @04:49AM (#281109) Journal

          Well, I do all my development in Virtual machines for isolation purposes, and because I can move entire machines between worstations simply by copying VM files.

          I've not noticed any issue with 3D, or with anything refusing to run. Now obviously I can't speak to all applications.
          But I haven't had any problems with the 3d drivers on my AMD Linux machine running either linux VMs or Windows VMs.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Geotti on Saturday December 26 2015, @01:03PM

          by Geotti (1146) on Saturday December 26 2015, @01:03PM (#281167) Journal

          Hello traveller and welcome to 2015,

          You seem to have missed a lot in your cryogenic sleep, but here's a quick rundown of what has happened in the past years [reddit.com].

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by SDRefugee on Saturday December 26 2015, @07:54PM

    by SDRefugee (4477) on Saturday December 26 2015, @07:54PM (#281260)

    But what I think will happen, if too many of us move off Windows, to Linux, is the government, which is already well down the "1984" rathole, will just start making life tough for those who don't "suck on the MS teat".. I supported/used Windows in my day (and night jobs) since Windows 3.11, but when I retired I decided I was done with that.. Oh I still get roped into helping friends/neighbors/family with computer issues. I'm trying to wean most of them off of MS products and onto Linux, and have a fairly good track record with that.. Several neighbors who bought new systems on Blackfriday have already had Windows 10 removed and Linux installed, at their request.. I have several more queued up for the week after newyears.. FUCK MICROSOFT AND THIER WINDOWS X....

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