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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday December 26 2015, @10:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the go-from-blow-to-suck dept.

If governments are serious about the global warming targets they adopted in Paris, scientists say they have two options: eliminating fossil fuels immediately or finding ways to undo their damage to the climate system in the future.

The first is politically impossible—the world is still hooked on using oil, coal and natural gas—which leaves the option of a major cleanup of the atmosphere later this century.

Yet the landmark Paris Agreement, adopted by 195 countries on Dec. 12, makes no reference to that, which has left some observers wondering whether politicians understand the implications of the goals they signed up for.

"I would say it's the single biggest issue that has to be resolved," said Glen Peters of the Cicero climate research institute in Oslo, Norway.

Scientists refer to this envisioned cleanup job as negative emissions—removing more greenhouse gases from the atmosphere than humans put in it.

Right now we're putting in a lot—about 50 billion tons a year, mostly carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels for energy.

There are methods to achieve negative emissions today but they would need to be scaled up to a level that experts say could put climate efforts in conflict with other priorities, such as eradicating hunger. Still, if the Paris climate goals are to be achieved, there's no way to avoid the issue, said Jan Minx of the Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate change in Berlin.

"My view is, let's have this discussion," he said. "Let's involve ourselves in developing these technologies. We need to keep learning."

The Paris Agreement was historic. For the first time all countries agreed to jointly fight climate change, primarily by reducing the emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

Governments vowed to keep global warming "well below" 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) compared with preindustrial times. But even 2 degrees of warming could threaten the existence of low-lying island nations faced with rising seas. So governments agreed to try to limit warming to 1.5 degrees C (2.7 degrees F), which is just half-a-degree above the global average temperature this year.

That goal is so ambitious—some would say far-fetched—that there's been very little research devoted to it. In Paris, politicians asked scientists to start studying how it can be done.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2015, @12:29AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2015, @12:29AM (#281326)

    Uh, what article are you responding to?

    This article was about the fact that in order for nations to meet the greenhouse gas emissions targets, that they set for themselves, that will need to go into the negatives at some point in time.

    I did not see anything about 'giving up civilization' or 'the good old days' (if anything on a per capita basis things were worse in eras before due to widespread use of clear cutting and burning as well as overharvesting of trees for charcoal production).

    If anything we are looking to INCREASE our level of 'civilization'- more efficient cars, more insulated homes, more efficient everything, greater use of advanced technologies (local solar and wind production, power storage through advanced batteries, etc) and the additional step of having to capture some atmospheric carbon and sequester it in some way. This could be as simple as planting more trees and harvesting them for the express purpose of sealing them away somewhere (fill a coal mine bottom to top with charcoal and then seal it shut and that's -1 coal mines worth of carbon in the air), or it could be more advanced sequestering methods (presumably more efficient)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2015, @01:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2015, @01:58AM (#281341)

    Making charcoal but ploughing it into the soil (instead of burying it in mines) has been suggested by others. It's believed the charcoal would persist for thousands of years, and would make the soil more fertile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochar [wikipedia.org]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110913052413/http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/ancient-skills-could-reverse-global-warming-1055700.html [archive.org]

    The UN FAO has estimated that animal agriculture is the source of 18% of the human-caused greenhouse effect. If we were to eat plants directly, we could get the same nourishment while emitting smaller amounts of carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, and methane. The U.S. EPA singled out a change in the way manure is handled as a major cause of increased greenhouse gas emissions from U.S. agriculture.

    http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/farm/hsus-fact-sheet-greenhouse-gas-emissions-from-animal-agriculture.pdf [humanesociety.org]
    http://www.worldwatch.org/agriculture-and-livestock-remain-major-sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions-0 [worldwatch.org]
    http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/sources/agriculture.html [epa.gov]

    In response to the great-grandparent post, abandoning industrial agriculture might not result in starvation. One study found that "leguminous cover crops could fix enough nitrogen to replace the amount of synthetic fertilizer currently in use." However, the Haber-Bosch process [wikipedia.org] by which such fertilizer is made only uses about 5% of the natural gas produced.

    https://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=B35B30771D5358CB87B8953A0D748CB0.journals?fromPage=online&aid=1091304 [cambridge.org]