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posted by CoolHand on Monday December 28 2015, @06:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the big-brother-in-action dept.

Apple may have said that it opposes the idea of weakening encryption and providing governments with backdoors into products, but things are rather different in China. The Chinese parliament has just passed a law that requires technology companies to comply with government requests for information, including handing over encryption keys.

Under the guise of counter-terrorism, the controversial law is the Chinese government's attempt to curtail the activities of militants and political activists. China already faces criticism from around the world not only for the infamous Great Firewall of China, but also the blatant online surveillance and censorship that takes place. This latest move is one that will be view very suspiciously by foreign companies operating within China, or looking to do so.

http://betanews.com/2015/12/27/china-passes-law-requiring-tech-firms-to-hand-over-encryption-keys/

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @07:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @07:43PM (#281798)

    The same thing the USA stands for:
    Take guns away.
    Take privacy away.
    Make women equal to men.
    Girls Not Brides.
    Supremacy of the state above men.

    Same exact thing.

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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday December 28 2015, @08:01PM

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 28 2015, @08:01PM (#281806) Journal

    It's weird reading that list, in that it reads like what someone would post if they were trying to satirize your side of the political spectrum.
    1. Simple partisan concern
    2. Simple non-partisan concern
    3. Crazy belief that doesn't even belong in the previous century
    4. Crazy belief that doesn't even belong in the previous century
    5. Partisan identity statement.

    Have you ever had that "Do you think maybe we're the baddies?" moment?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @09:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @09:21PM (#281848)

      I'd take #5 as an indictment of totalitarianism. How do you get "partisan identity statement" out of that?

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday December 29 2015, @03:54AM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 29 2015, @03:54AM (#281959) Journal

        Because it's a framing that could, theoretically, be applied to any governmental action that doesn't actually tell you anything about them, but is nonetheless used as a central identity of a certain political party.

        Arresting someone for murder? Yep, that's the state asserting its supremacy over murderers.
        Taxation? Well, that's just telling people what to do with THEIR money.
        Providing public schooling? Brainwashing

        It's mindless blather and ought to be treated as such unless you've got a very good reason to assert it's actually relevant.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 28 2015, @09:34PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday December 28 2015, @09:34PM (#281857) Journal

      The person you're replying to is our resident kiddie-diddler Fizzbuzz/MikeeUSA. He never misses a chance to show up and inject his slimy, underendowed old-man dick into politics threads. He constant citation of Deuteronomy as law is the dead giveway. ESR, among others, have written about him.

      And he still has a standing threat to kill me for being a feminist. Oddly, every time I ask him to make good on it, he never does...

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @10:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2015, @10:34PM (#281887)

      "Make women equal to men."

      I would say there is some truth in here. How do you make two different things equal? You can tread carefully, and most likely still fuck it up. I'm all for the exercise in futility, I enjoy good laughs.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 28 2015, @11:12PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday December 28 2015, @11:12PM (#281894) Journal

        You can make us valued the same. I believe that is what is meant by "equality."

        I'm a realist about this: most men are going to be better at, say, construction work than I am. Not all, since I'm a looming six-footer with a penchant for steel-toed boots, but most. It's just how we're built. Neither sex is *worth* any less, is the point. This is one reason my particular brand of feminism is so against male circumcision and all the psychic mutilations this society forces on our boys and men; gendered violence is not a one-way street.

        ...I've been called "traitor to the lesbian race" (what...the...fuck) by a particularly wild-eyed TERF for that one. Just goes to show you the extremes on either end are ratfucking nuts.

        --
        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:26AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:26AM (#281910)

          There's nothing nuts about a man wanting a cute young girl (they're adorable), that you and faggots think otherwise is why you were burned alive on discovery not so long ago: men could not risk you living to gain positions of influence over them: it would lead to the loss of the right to marry cute young female children (which it has).

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 29 2015, @01:44AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday December 29 2015, @01:44AM (#281935) Journal

            I swear to Ishtar, Mikhail, if you keep this shit up someone is going to find you and take you to task for it. We all know exactly who you are, and I bet the site admins could trace your connections fairly easily.

            Why don't you come find me like you keep threatening to? Why don't you burn me, like you think should happen to me?

            I know why. It's because you're a powerless, impotent, feeble old man who grows weaker and stupider by the day. You will die soon, and you will have left no legacy other than a long, fetid trail of virtual slime. Unloved, unmourned, unknown...gone. Return your elements to the dust of the earth and stop wasting oxygen on this crap.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @04:06AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @04:06AM (#281965)

              Scum like this is not worth replying to.

              ----

              The best revenge is a life well lived.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @04:15AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @04:15AM (#281967)

                If that were really the case, then you wouldn't have said that in a reply.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2015, @03:02AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2015, @03:02AM (#282347)

              There's nothing nuts about a man wanting a cute young girl (they're adorable), that you and faggots think otherwise is why you were burned alive on discovery not so long ago: men could not risk you living to gain positions of influence over them: it would lead to the loss of the right to marry cute young female children (which it has)

        • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Wednesday December 30 2015, @05:00PM

          by SanityCheck (5190) on Wednesday December 30 2015, @05:00PM (#282560)

          Yes that can be lofty ambition. I'd love a world where we are all valuable, but value is subjective. I met some females for a family where there were only daughters and the father would always want a son so he treated them badly, at the same time I would love to have only daughters because they would shower me with so much love and attention.

          Of course if you are talking about monetary value then it gets even worse and more convoluted, because as you said yourself neither can perform the same amount or quality of work in fields which require things each sex has more innate ability in. And even if we paid people for just the amount of work, there are qualitative things which are hard to measure, and often overlooked in favor of quantitative measures.

          Better yet is the fact that not all men are equal when compared to each other. If men are not equal, good luck making women equal to men:
          Y != Y; X = Y; Y == X?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 30 2015, @06:03PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday December 30 2015, @06:03PM (#282580) Journal

            And here you're hitting on the essential problem: measuring people solely by their economic output, their usefulness, to a small class of ruling elite. What happened to humans having worth to humans just for being human? Why have we become a race of 7+ billion disaffected schizoids? The whole point of economic activity is to live better lives; we work to live, not live to work.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:21AM (#281908)

      > "Do you think maybe we're the baddies?" moment?

      I hope it's realized by all on my side of the spectrum and thus the scales fall from the eyes of the comrades and they see what is needed for a revanchist ascendancy.

      >In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10-12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16-18 years by 1920.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2015, @12:23AM (#281909)

        Also see: Deuteronomy chapter 22 verses 28-29, hebrew