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posted by cmn32480 on Monday July 25 2016, @06:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the another-election-season-trainwreck dept.

Florida Representative Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has announced she will resign as chair of the Democratic National Committee. The resignation is to become effective after the party's convention. The organisation's e-mail system was hacked; leaked e-mails appear to confirm accusations that Wasserman-Schultz had taken action favouring Hillary Clinton in her contest against Bernie Sanders to become the Democratic Party's presidential nominee. Sanders had previously called for Wasserman-Schultz to resign, a request he reiterated in light of the leak.

Wasserman-Schultz said in a statement:

I know that electing Hillary Clinton as our next president is critical for America's future. I look forward to serving as a surrogate for her campaign in Florida and across the country to ensure her victory.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @06:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @06:54AM (#379681)

    We know what Wasserman-Schultz is, now we just have to negotiate the price. Not very different from any other political whore. Seems the DNC is guilty of misandry at the least and full on corruption at the worst. Hope the Bernie crowd makes their lives miserable at the convention.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 25 2016, @08:11AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday July 25 2016, @08:11AM (#379699) Journal

    Hope the Bernie crowd makes their lives miserable at the convention.

    Given how badly the anti-Trump crowd was shut down at the RNC, and the polling I've seen on Bernie supporters considering whether to vote for Hillary, I'm not wildly optimistic that they will cause a huge enough scene to change anything or even be entertaining. Bernie also seems committed to shepherding his people into the Hillary camp, and his speech is on Night 1. He won't throw fuel on the fire, he will bring his extinguisher instead.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @08:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @08:33AM (#379707)

      I'm not wildly optimistic that [Bernie supporters] will cause a huge enough scene to change anything

      They also have the Wikileaks DNC email dump.

      The item about Hillary's choice of running mate is gone from the queue now, but Tim Kaine is not at all what traditional Donkeys want.
      He's one of the most hawkish figures among Senate Democrats.
      He OK'd 12 executions while he was VA's gov.
      He has repeatedly said how much he likes TPP.
      He supports "Right to Work" (for Less) laws.

      He's A Blue Dog and a bad manager.

      Among Kaine’s biggest donors in his Senate race [was] the Virginia League of Conservation Voters
      [...]
      When Kaine was running for governor, debate ensued over whether he had been a good mayor for Richmond. After all, one of his successors[...]--a Democrat, L. Douglas Wilder--came into office saying City Hall was a "cesspool of corruption and inefficiency".

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      • (Score: 1) by gmrath on Monday July 25 2016, @11:30AM

        by gmrath (4181) on Monday July 25 2016, @11:30AM (#379750)

        '. . . saying City Hall was a "cesspool of corruption and inefficiency".'

        Is this not something that can be said about most or all local, county, state, or federal governmental entities of the country of your choice? Something form years past: "There is nothing more corrupt than the corruption in local government." - and it all stems from there. . .

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Kromagv0 on Monday July 25 2016, @12:32PM

          by Kromagv0 (1825) on Monday July 25 2016, @12:32PM (#379774) Homepage

          Well there are some cities [twincities.com] that [twincities.com] are worse [stillwatergazette.com] than others [minnpost.com]. When I searched for Lake Elmo City Council news those were just the first 4 stories that came up as they have had a lot of additional problems recently. At one point they couldn't even make it through the Pledge of Allegiance without getting into an argument.

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    • (Score: 1, Disagree) by fustakrakich on Monday July 25 2016, @09:01AM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 25 2016, @09:01AM (#379711) Journal

      I'm not wildly optimistic that they will cause a huge enough scene to change anything or even be entertaining

      Yeah, now I'm wondering how they're going to keep people tuned in. Ad rates will plummet if they don't have something.

      Bernie also seems committed to shepherding his people into the Hillary camp

      That's exactly what his job was from the start. You had to have your eyes wide shut not to see it. Sheepdog Sanders is his name. Keep the money in the democrat corral. It was a smashing success. Count how many independents will win seats this year. I bet you it will be anywhere from zero to none.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @02:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 25 2016, @02:12PM (#379812)

        Count how many independents will win seats this year. I bet you it will be anywhere from zero to none.

        מַה נִּשְּׁתַּנָה הַלַּיְלָה הַזֶּה מִכָּל הַלֵּילוֹת

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 25 2016, @05:59PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 25 2016, @05:59PM (#379942) Journal

          Now this is why I'm glad Slashdot doesn't have unicode!

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      • (Score: 1) by Francis on Monday July 25 2016, @02:19PM

        by Francis (5544) on Monday July 25 2016, @02:19PM (#379815)

        That's the establishment's view of it. The corrupt establishment that keeps letting GOP candidates run on the Democratic ticket and is a huge circle jerk for barely legal bribery.

        Sanders ran for the issues. I don't think he expected to get that far, but it's pretty much destroyed the party now that people know what's been going on internally. I mean, for heaven's gate, they won't even put climate change action into the party platform for government agencies making decisions considering the impact on climate change of the decisions. Probably the next step weaker would be proposing that we burn down the national forest in its entirely in order to prevent wildfires.

        It's going to bite them in the ass as there's already more interest in groups like wolf-pac.com for finally doing something about the corruption.

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 25 2016, @05:43PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 25 2016, @05:43PM (#379930) Journal

          The corrupt establishment that keeps letting GOP candidates run on the Democratic ticket...

          You are wagging the dog. The situation is quite the reverse. Remember all those dixiecrats that jumped ship in '65. They run the republican party now.

          Sanders ran for the issues.

          Now you can disagree all you want, but the simple fact is that these people are not playing that game. This is strictly business. There is no need to read anything else into it. The propaganda is distraction designed for our amusement. Campaign funding is a simple (or complex, take your pick) money laundering operation, and these people are simple con men/women playing an ancient shell game.

          And it is up to the voters to turn their backs on the bling. All that money would go up in a puff of smoke if we simply ignored them and voted for someone else. There are two other people on the ballot. We could just as easily turn it into a race between the Libertarians and the Greens. The choice to feed or starve Mr. Moneybags is ours alone.

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          • (Score: 1) by Francis on Monday July 25 2016, @08:59PM

            by Francis (5544) on Monday July 25 2016, @08:59PM (#380041)

            Voting only works if there isn't an organized campaign of election fraud. The DNC went way out of it's way to do things like close polling stations and hasn't even bothered to count all the ballots in CA or release the figures from IA. The exit polling data had to be "corrected" because it didn't match the actual vote, which is to say they had to change it so people wouldn't ask questions about the election fraud going on.

            Exit polling is a reliable method of verifying the results of an election.

            One of the odd coincidences is that whenever there were irregularities, it somehow managed to help Clinton. And whenever she was being hurt by actual votes, it was dismissed because that state was in some way weird.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 26 2016, @02:38AM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday July 26 2016, @02:38AM (#380146) Journal

              If people don't fight back and demand adequate oversight, there is nothing more I can offer. I can only keep telling you that blaming the objects of desire (money, power) is the wrong way to go at it. It only serves the running gag and evades the issue.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Monday July 25 2016, @10:01AM

      by hemocyanin (186) on Monday July 25 2016, @10:01AM (#379726) Journal

      I'm not wildly optimistic that they will cause a huge enough scene to change anything

      I'm absolutely positive they won't change anything. But the fact one wicked witch just go shitcanned, even though she's right back where she wanted to be all along, in HRC's campaign, is certainly not the face the DNC wants to present right now. Without the leaks, DWS would have done her HRC work all through the convention and on prime time which would help her get votes in her primary race. It isn't a huge victory, but the DNC did get bloodied, and for that, I'm very happy. If the Busters (because certainly we're at that stage of #bernieorbust) can further embarrass the DNC, I will be happy and grateful. Then I'll ignore the rest of the election and vote for Jill Stein.

      • (Score: 2) by hoeferbe on Monday July 25 2016, @12:12PM

        by hoeferbe (4715) on Monday July 25 2016, @12:12PM (#379762)
        hemocyanin (186) [soylentnews.org] wrote [soylentnews.org]:

        Without the leaks, DWS would have done her HRC work all through the convention and on prime time which would help her get votes in her primary race.

        The summary stated that DWS's resignation is to become effective after the party's convention.  Reading The New York Times article, it seems that DWS is going to try to stay hidden at the convention so as not to rile up Sanders supporters... so I'm not sure how she will continue her duties throughout the convention while still remaining in the shadows.

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Francis on Monday July 25 2016, @02:21PM

          by Francis (5544) on Monday July 25 2016, @02:21PM (#379818)

          Whether she goes right now or after the convention doesn't really matter. The damage has already been done. She was able to manipulate the results up to this point and stack the committee dealing with the party platform with non-democrats pushing for GOP positions.

          The classy thing would have been for her to step down months ago when it became obvious to anybody that wasn't a fucking moron that she was engineering a win for Clinton rather than trying to remain impartial.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by edIII on Monday July 25 2016, @05:30PM

      by edIII (791) on Monday July 25 2016, @05:30PM (#379924)

      He won't throw fuel on the fire, he will bring his extinguisher instead.

      There was this farmer who had been trying for years to get first prize in the fair for the largest hog. He'd been stuffing this hog several times a day with slop, but still didn't win. Having completely lost it, he shoots the hog and heads back to his farm. Angry he comes up with an idea and heads out of to the barn. Grabbing a little piglet, he taps a rubber cork into his butthole. 1 year later he's heading to the fair with the largest hog anyone has ever seen, the crowd has gone wild. Meanwhile an excited organ grinder loses his monkey and watches it climb into the hogs bin while chasing it. The ensuing explosion killed 10 people and wounded 100, and miraculously, the organ grinder survives. When asked what happened, he said, "the last thing I saw was my poor monkey frantically trying to put the cork back in".

      Yeah, there is a moral to this story :)

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by jmorris on Monday July 25 2016, @07:14PM

      by jmorris (4844) on Monday July 25 2016, @07:14PM (#379985)

      He won't throw fuel on the fire, he will bring his extinguisher instead.

      What would really piss em off would be if the emails between Bernie and Hillary camps showing that Bernie was in on it from the start came out. Because of course he had to be. He never intended to be anything but a stalking horse, to keep some interest going in what would otherwise be a boring coronation, to gin up some excitement in the base. In return he got more media exposure in a week than the rest of his miserable existence. More important, he would have never been allowed to run and get any media attention had there not been a firm understanding between his campaign and the DNC's media operations (That would be pretty much all mainstream outlets) that it was all just a voter activation scam.

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 25 2016, @08:01PM

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 25 2016, @08:01PM (#380011) Journal

        He never intended to be anything but a stalking horse, to keep some interest going in what would otherwise be a boring coronation, to gin up some excitement in the base

        No, that's what the democrats hired Trump for. I doubt the emails would reveal that many democrats registered as republicans to vote for him though.

        Bernie's job was to simply prevent any money from flowing out of the party coffers by working the liberal faction.

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        • (Score: 1) by ncc74656 on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:23AM

          by ncc74656 (4917) on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:23AM (#380161) Homepage

          No, that's what the democrats hired Trump for. I doubt the emails would reveal that many democrats registered as republicans to vote for him though.

          In open-primary states, they wouldn't have needed to do that: ask for whichever ballot you want on the way in and vote on it, no questions asked. Open primaries are horrible primarily for this reason, as they're not an accurate gauge of who the members of a party want representing them.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:34AM

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:34AM (#380166) Journal

            Oy! I was hoping I was joking... This probably explains why these two won it. We apparently have a system where everybody is just trying to vote against each other. What is the solution for this?

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 25 2016, @08:29PM

        by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday July 25 2016, @08:29PM (#380024) Journal

        The Russians or somebody gave Wikileaks a lot of docs. We initially thought that it would be a crap dump, but the shenanigans surrounding Debbie Wasserman-Schultz have stirred up some nice chaos in the party. The timing was perfect, since her removal from her position (note: effective only at the end of the convention, for maximum butthurt!) had to be done the day before the convention.

        Assange has said that he has enough to "indict" Hillary. That's hard to believe, but he is on the right track.

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        • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday July 25 2016, @09:00PM

          by jmorris (4844) on Monday July 25 2016, @09:00PM (#380043)

          Don't let the media distract with speculation about who did the dump. Doesn't really matter, does it? Did the same suspects get all concerned about any of the other WikiLeaks dumps and where they came from? Of course not. Are the documents authentic? The DNC doesn't dispute the issue of autenticity so we can assume they are legit. Concentrate on the reality that was revealed that the entire Democratic Primary was a scripted TV show with a preordained ending.

          Just for fun, lets assume Putin did it. Why? Obama in in his pocket, remember "Tell Vladimir I'll have more flexibility after the election." and Hillary was also well and truly bought, remember the Uranium deal? So if Putin really did it we would be forced to look for a motive and I can only think of one. He considers Hillary so incompetent that even if bought he can't trust her not to do something stupid enough to get a World War going, something Putin can't afford. That he figures that even with all the uncertainty around what Trump might do, that Putin can do a deal with him. Remember, Putin's hand is actually much weaker than he wants the world to believe, he has been succeeding in his antics only because he has been bold and we have been weak, feckless and uncertain. But an America that weak and feckless is, in the long term, far more dangerous to Putin's interests because it will destabilize the world order in ways he isn't currently strong enough to control.

          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 25 2016, @09:24PM

            by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday July 25 2016, @09:24PM (#380054) Journal

            You really seized on the first sentence of my post.

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            • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday July 25 2016, @10:08PM

              by jmorris (4844) on Monday July 25 2016, @10:08PM (#380070)

              Because there was a reason you put it first. Whether you thought of it yourself or just blindly bought into the Narrative that is saturating the media today doesn't matter. The point is the importance, for the Dims, of deflecting sufficient attention from the contents of the emails to the meta conversation about who leaked and why, that the icky details won't sink it for a day or two and by then of course it will be 'old news' and won't be mentioned again on the boob tube.

              The end effect is going to be limited to having DWS move from the DNC to HRC's campaign, exactly as was planned from the start in the first place. Bernie will forced to clean up the mess tonight by utterly abasing himself to the Dark Queen and that will be the end of it. A percent or two of his diehards might end up butthurt and sit out the general but they are the sort of youth vote that generally doesn't vote anyway.

              Which was why I called ya on parroting the narrative, then went totally offscript to drop a evil thought about why this time the deflection might be used to raise questions even more uncomfortable than the leaks. Revealing the DNC is corrupt is in the end just a dog bites man story. Putin throwing Hillary under the bus actually has the potential to be hyped into a man bites dog story and actually being news.

              But Trump would probably have to push it to get past the media shields and he probably isn't going to do that. I'm thinking he has his own numbers that confirm Scott Adams' projection that at this point he just has to act like a plausible President for three months and he automatically wins. That it is a change election so all he need do is pass the plausible candidate threshold, which is a pretty low bar.

              • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 25 2016, @10:30PM

                by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday July 25 2016, @10:30PM (#380083) Journal

                The reason I put it first is because in the series of events, Wikileaks has to get the docs first before they can leak them. The Russians leaking emails to Wikileaks scenario is plausible, not that it detracts from the releases in any way in my view. The Trump coordinating with the Russians narrative is a far bigger stretch that will flop. I'm not parroting any narrative. I've discussed Wikileaks and where they get their docs long before the Dems/DNC ever cared.

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