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posted by cmn32480 on Monday July 25 2016, @06:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the another-election-season-trainwreck dept.

Florida Representative Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has announced she will resign as chair of the Democratic National Committee. The resignation is to become effective after the party's convention. The organisation's e-mail system was hacked; leaked e-mails appear to confirm accusations that Wasserman-Schultz had taken action favouring Hillary Clinton in her contest against Bernie Sanders to become the Democratic Party's presidential nominee. Sanders had previously called for Wasserman-Schultz to resign, a request he reiterated in light of the leak.

Wasserman-Schultz said in a statement:

I know that electing Hillary Clinton as our next president is critical for America's future. I look forward to serving as a surrogate for her campaign in Florida and across the country to ensure her victory.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 25 2016, @10:37AM

    Agreed. Johnson doesn't need to win; he needs to get enough votes so that Libertarians get federal funding next time around. He's almost certainly not going to get the 15% necessary in national polls to get into the debates but with the additional cash, the Libertarian candidate might next election cycle. It's worth taking a four year hit to make a valuable adjustment to a fucked up system.

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  • (Score: 1) by Francis on Monday July 25 2016, @02:24PM

    by Francis (5544) on Monday July 25 2016, @02:24PM (#379821)

    The only problem with that is that if the Libertarians get more money that will likely just entrench the Democrats as they'll have an easier time of getting a "Democrat" elected in 2020.

    What we really need is some real accountability for the Democrats as they're not representing any sort of meaningful counterbalance to the GOP. They basically always agree with the GOP when it comes to messing the country up. They're OK with the disastrous trade deals, foreign intervention and giving up our constitutional rights. They give a small number of things on social issues, but mostly to distract from all the terrible policies that they agree with the GOP on.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday July 25 2016, @04:01PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 25 2016, @04:01PM (#379869) Journal
      Then vote for Jill Stein. I see you don't bother to demand accountability from the GOP. That reason most likely also applies to the Democrats.
      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday July 25 2016, @06:41PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday July 25 2016, @06:41PM (#379964)

        I see you don't bother to demand accountability from the GOP.

        It's a valid double standard. Demanding accountability, or any kind of good behavior really, from the GOP, is like demanding good, rational behavior from an insane lunatic who's in an asylum. The Dems put themselves out there as the party that works for the common people instead of the ultra-wealthy and big businesses, so they're much more hypocritical and it's valid to call them out on this.

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Tuesday July 26 2016, @01:56AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 26 2016, @01:56AM (#380137) Journal

          It's a valid double standard. [...] The Dems put themselves out there as the party that works for the common people instead of the ultra-wealthy and big businesses

          I should have known the idiots would come out on this one. Republicans sell this crap too. Nobody runs as the party of the ultra-wealthy.

      • (Score: 1) by Francis on Monday July 25 2016, @09:02PM

        by Francis (5544) on Monday July 25 2016, @09:02PM (#380046)

        There's a very good reason for the double standard here. As long as the DNC marches further and further right, there's not really any accountability possible for the GOP. Especially for the majority of Americans that think the Democrats are too far right. What are we going to do, vote for the corporatists that are OK with abortion or the corporatists that aren't? Not much of a choice if you're not a woman that's expecting to get pregnant with a child she doesn't want.

        If we could get the Democrats back somewhere left of center and to stop fixing elections in favor of the corporatist members, then we could have some actual accountability for the GOP. Barring that, our next best option would be to try and figure out how to get the Greens enough votes that they can mostly replace the Democrats. It's been a while since a major party died.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 25 2016, @11:51PM

          Especially for the majority of Americans that think the Democrats are too far right.

          Epic failure to read the electorate.

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          • (Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday July 26 2016, @12:42AM

            by Francis (5544) on Tuesday July 26 2016, @12:42AM (#380119)

            Not really, gun control, climate change, energy and economic policy; most Americans aren't right of center on those.

            If they were, then how do you explain the revolts going on both in the GOP and Democratic base? The only people that really buy into the lunacy are low information voters and the people paying the politicians off. Most voters in both parties are very much aware of how little representation they have in congress.

            But yes, I'm the one that's misinterpreting 90% of voters wanting gun control and neither party actually giving out to them. That sounds like a right of center position with popular support.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday July 26 2016, @01:39AM

              If you think that's what the revolt in the GOP is about, you are way, way too far from the event to see what's going on. The GOP revolt is about Washington insider people with an R by their name not being conservative. Ponder for a moment how many of Obama's pet bills got through a Republican House and Senate, then consider why conservatives might be pissed off at their elected representatives.

              And if you think for even a moment that 90% of voters want gun control, you've lost your mind. A full third of us here in this nation are gun owners ourselves and most of us see "common sense gun control measures" for what they are, a bit by bit chipping away of that which shall not be infringed.

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              • (Score: 1) by AssCork on Wednesday July 27 2016, @05:51PM

                by AssCork (6255) on Wednesday July 27 2016, @05:51PM (#380812) Journal

                And if you think for even a moment that 90% of voters want gun control, you've lost your mind. A full third of us here in this nation are gun owners ourselves and most of us see "common sense gun control measures" for what they are, a bit by bit chipping away of that which shall not be infringed.

                Hold still, let me pin this "Internet Hero" medal on your chest.
                To expound upon your point - there is already 'gun control' that the "zOMG! We need MOAR Gun Control!" crowd knows nothing about;

                • Gun Registry (for actual assault weapons - things that have burst/full-auto) - this was closed in May 1986, and no new ones can be obtained by private citizens. Costs have skyrocketed to the tens of thousands of dollars
                • Restricted Item Registry (for silencers, short-barreled rifles & shotguns, etc) - also known as "NFA Items" - anyone wanting to acquire one has to pay the price of the item, the 'tax stamp' price (as high as $200), and bear an average six month wait.
                • Both of these require background checks and fees for any transfer from person-to-person (buyer/seller). There is no "Gun Show Loophole"
                • Both of these are regulated by the BATFE, which is a 'regulatory body' who's rules carry the force-of-law. If they decide to go knocking on doors to inspect NFA registered items, it is a federal felony to deny them access.

                This is the utopia Gun-Control-Nuts want for all people, all guns.
                This is why "Gun-Nuts" get their dander up when someone spouts 'softened phrases' like 'common-sense gun-control' and 'most people want blah, blah'.

                Anyone who's out for more 'common-sense gun-control' that 'most people want' really needs to go out and try to get a silencer (suppressor) and a matching short-barreled rifle so they can hunt w/o their dog going deaf.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 26 2016, @02:00AM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 26 2016, @02:00AM (#380138) Journal

              But yes, I'm the one that's misinterpreting 90% of voters wanting gun control and neither party actually giving out to them.

              Yes, you are. I'm not surprised to see such delusional thinking from someone so partisan. If 90% of voters really wanted that, it'd happen.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:14AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:14AM (#380159)

                It's also completely irrelevant. Mere popularity can't (or rather, shouldn't) override the constitution. Until the constitution is amended, all this gun control nonsense (both existing gun control and proposed gun control) is totally unconstitutional, but a grand majority of people don't seem to care about that as long as they like the unconstitutional policy in question.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @05:56AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @05:56AM (#380204)

                  Until the constitution is amended, all this gun control nonsense (both existing gun control and proposed gun control) is totally unconstitutional

                  Except thats not true at all. Restricting firearms to only active members of the military and reserves would be 100% constitutional, thanks to literally half of the amendment that you're pretending doesn't exist.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @06:37AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 26 2016, @06:37AM (#380212)

                    It's pretty odd that the founding fathers crafted a constitutional amendment whose only purpose was to remind us that the government has the power to give members of the military guns. What an oversight!

                    You seem to be saying that the "well-regulated militia" part of the amendment restricts the right to bare arms, rather than merely presenting one justification for the amendment. That's just not the case. Just because they present a reason for the amendment's existence doesn't mean the right vanishes in other instances; the amendment says no such thing. And even many gun control advocates don't say that you can outright ban everyone except for active members members of the military from owning guns, because that would be laughable from a historical standpoint.

                    You don't seem to care about the history of the amendment or how the text is structured, so this is probably a waste of time.

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:44PM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:44PM (#380326) Journal

                    thanks to literally half of the amendment that you're pretending doesn't exist.

                    Words mean things. The half you refer to is a nonbinding justification for the half that is binding, and simply doesn't mean what you think it means.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:59PM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 26 2016, @03:59PM (#380332) Journal
                  If you have 90+% backing, you can get that constitutional amendment.
              • (Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday July 26 2016, @11:16PM

                by Francis (5544) on Tuesday July 26 2016, @11:16PM (#380494)

                Not really. It doesn't happen because people don't vote on single issues in the US. Also the manufacturers spend a ton of money lobbying and bribing to keep it from happening.

                But I'm sure that I'm the one that's delusional here.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 27 2016, @12:13AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 27 2016, @12:13AM (#380517) Journal

                  Not really. It doesn't happen because people don't vote on single issues in the US. Also the manufacturers spend a ton of money lobbying and bribing to keep it from happening.

                  Always an excuse, eh? So why are there manufacturers anyway? Making guns doesn't generate a profit, if there aren't buyers.