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Apple is the latest tech company to close its pay gap.
Women and minorities at Apple earn the same amount of money as their white, male co-workers in similar roles, the company said Wednesday.
Apple released its annual inclusion and diversity report, saying the company had achieved pay equity.
"Women earn one dollar for every dollar male employees earn. And underrepresented minorities earn one dollar for every dollar white employees earn," the report said. To put things in perspective, the White House says that in the US, women earn 78 cents to the dollar.
The pay gap is one of many issues related to diversity that companies in the tech industry face. Silicon Valley has had to confront tough questions about the treatment of women and minorities in tech, and the industry continues to struggle with issues surrounding recruitment, retention and promotion.
Apple isn't the first tech company to say it's reached equal pay. In April, Facebook and Microsoft also said they had no gender pay gap.
Apple's latest report shows that in 2016, 72 percent of the company's leadership is male, while only 28 percent is female. Whites make up 67 percent, Asians 21 percent, blacks 3 percent, Hispanics 7 percent, and 1 percent in leadership roles are multiracial. The balance is made up of other ethnicities and employees who didn't declare.
Apple's report also shows that overall, the company is 68 percent male and 32 percent female this year -- a move of one percentage point from last year when Apple reported 69 percent male and 31 percent female. Fifty-six percent of US employees at Apple are white, 19 percent are Asian, 9 percent are black, 12 percent are Hispanic and 2 percent are multiracial ethnicities.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 05 2016, @05:13PM
The 'pay gap' is the result of a grade school level math error. It is simply averaging 'all' women, no mater of age, educational status, marital status, or profession. Vs 'all' men no mater of age, educational status, marital status, or profession.
Not to mention it has been illegal since about 1957 to PAY women less than men for the same job, with the only loop holes being if the position has merit based pay.
The falsely observed earning gap is due to women working less hours vs men in the same profession, the tendency of women to prefer part time work vs full time. And the fact many take upwards of a year off to have a child.
Once these factors are considered the gap is statistically insignificant, within 2%. Well within the margin for pay variance between companies. In some cases the gap goes the other way showing women earn MORE than men of the same profession, employment status, and hours worked.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday August 05 2016, @05:27PM
You forgot one important point - the menstruation periods of women in groups temporally synchronize with each other, so besides getting pregnant, there is an additional productivity loss with cattiness and bitchiness as well as causing losses of productive employees with bogus sexual harassment claims.
Due to changes in Western society, I expect those trends to become increasingly detrimental for employers.
Additionally, 'dat pussy 'doe. Bein' pretty fine when you shimmy up inna place annit be smellin' like French ho.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 05 2016, @05:34PM
>'dat pussy 'doe
fuck a deer
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 05 2016, @05:47PM
There we go :) You earned your -1 Troll mod that time. You neglected to remember that most of us take some form of BC though. In my case I'm just lucky and usually have fairly light periods.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Snow on Friday August 05 2016, @08:22PM
You know, EF, I liked to think that women would sync up and there would be a part of the month where all hell breaks loose, but it doesn't quite happen that way...
My wife works as a hair stylist, so classic woman work environment. There are definitely a few of the women there that have synched up, but it's not like ALL of them go off all at once. It's like little pockets of menstruation.
I must admit, I was pretty disappointing when my wife told me this. I was hoping for an all-out full sync.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday August 06 2016, @08:18PM
They are not in close enough proximity and I have no doubt all the chemicals in the air probably don't help in that regard, but when I used to tour with a band that brought their wives along? Jesus tap dancing christ on a cracker that week was fricking HELL. And you wanna guess who always got stuck on the van with them? Yep...me. That is what I got for being a smoker in a band where only one of the wives smoked, but I quickly learned to keep a box of Hershey bars on hand that week to keep them from turning on me LOL.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday August 05 2016, @05:56PM
The 'pay gap' is the result of a grade school level math error. It is simply averaging 'all' women, no mater of age, educational status, marital status, or profession. Vs 'all' men no mater of age, educational status, marital status, or profession.
On a national level, perhaps.
However, in this case we're talking about a single company who knows exactly what job duties and what job experience each individual has and how much they are paid. Just hand-waving away any inconsistencies is a bit harder...
(Score: 3, Informative) by julian on Friday August 05 2016, @07:43PM
In the case of Apple I am flatly rejecting that there was any "problem" to begin with. There was merely the perception of a problem due to the error GP explained. Apple--as a trendy forward-looking company--felt the need to virtue signal to appeal to one of their target demos.
Now, an "image problem" is a real problem for a company, especially a company like Apple that cares a lot about its image. Even if there was no "pay gap" it might benefit them to take visible steps to correct it so that they can appear more progressive. Perception matters even if it doesn't perfectly track with reality, especially at the level Apple plays the marketing game.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday August 05 2016, @09:35PM
So now you can get paid less than your colleague for not being good at negotiation AND ALSO not being a woman.
Hey hey - when you introduce sexism in non-gendered problem, you fight the good war against sexism.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 06 2016, @02:11AM
Listened to a talk show host who made a case that "women" don't have a pay gap, but "mothers" definitely have a huge pay gap.
Mothers who decide that their families are more important than their careers almost always earn less than their peers, because mothers are the people who take those part time jobs, years long sabbaticals, "safe" positions, etc. Mothers who want to see their children grow up, and incidentally ensure those children are fed, will take jobs with little or no risk.
Women who have no desire to raise a family experience far less pay gap than women whose lives are their families.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday August 06 2016, @02:55AM
The easy proof:
If women are paid less, why does anyone hire men?
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.