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posted by janrinok on Sunday August 07 2016, @09:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the do-you-see-what-I-see? dept.

Gizmodo reports that the FBI has responded to an ACLU FOIA request by releasing 18 hours of surveillance video from the protests in Baltimore that followed the death of Freddie Gray in 2015. From the article:

According to the ACLU, the videos are all shot from traditional piloted aircraft. But as the ACLU points out drones can be seen in many of the videos. It's unclear if these drones were piloted by police, protesters, curious onlookers, or all of the above.

The videos, which all date from April 29, 2015 to May 3, 2015, switch from infrared (IR) to traditional camera mode and zoom in at various times -- though even at the maximum zoom it doesn't appear that any faces are clearly discernible. All 18 hours of raw video are available at the FBI's website. [The article contains the link.]

[...] After the protests occurred it was revealed in October 2015 that FBI planes using night vision and registered under fake businesses had been operating around the protest locations. This is the first time that footage from those planes has been released. As the ACLU notes, it's not clear what the FBI's records retention policy for videos like these might be and how they could be used for future investigations.

In response to an ACLU Freedom of Information Act request, the FBI has released more than 18 hours of video from surveillance cameras installed on FBI aircraft that flew over Baltimore in the days after the death of Freddie Gray in police custody in 2015. The videos, which were released to the ACLU before being posted online by the FBI this week, offer a rare and comprehensive view of the workings of a government surveillance operation. While the release of the footage addresses some questions, it leaves others unanswered.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/fbi-releases-secret-spy-plane-footage-freddie-gray-protests


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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday August 08 2016, @05:05AM

    by jmorris (4844) on Monday August 08 2016, @05:05AM (#385175)

    Yea, and when they riot and start burning and looting I really want the police to just shoot em. When a protest turns into a chimpout I really don't give a fuck how many of em die. Bring back the good old days when we would just shoot looters on sight.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 08 2016, @04:11PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday August 08 2016, @04:11PM (#385346) Journal

    Wow...see, J-Mo, as harsh and insulting as I am toward you, nothing I could ever possibly say or do could damn you more thoroughly than your own hand.

    Let's count your sins: Hard, unthinking authoritarianism. Not one but TWO badly-concealed racist dogwhistles ("chimp-out" and "looters"). The "good ol' days" fallacy of ahistorical ignorance. Complete disregard for context, i.e., what caused the riots in the first place. And the list goes on, and on, and on...

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    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday August 08 2016, @05:22PM

      by jmorris (4844) on Monday August 08 2016, @05:22PM (#385374)

      Have you seen the video of any of the recent protests/riots? If calling those antics a chimpout is racist then reality is racist. And when a 'protest' involves cleaning out liquor stores, cell phone stores and the obligatory shots of 'protesters' carrying off TV sets, then the word 'looter' is more appropriate than 'protester.' Again your objection seems to be with reality. You seem capable of doublethinking it away. I see the world as it is, not as I want it to be, as some political philosophy says it 'should be', etc. A is always A in my world.

      Complete disregard for context, i.e., what caused the riots in the first place.

      That is correct. I. DO. NOT. CARE.

      Protest all you want, but when it turns to rioting and looting you lose the right to claim any moral high ground, you are a criminal and need to be stopped by any means required.

      There is a place for violent revolution but it is an all or nothing thing. The American Founders, for example, did it right. Once you declare revolution on the existing order you have to be willing to go all in and accept the result. What do you think they meant when they pledged 'their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor?' It means if you resort to violence and lose you hang and go into the history books as traitors. These idiots want to have it both ways, to be able use limited violence and not suffer any consequence, and that just ain't happening. BLM ain't going to have a successful revolution so the sooner they hang as traitors the better for everybody. Or they figure that out and knock off the riots. Either solution works equally well for me.

      Oh, and btw, the Founders didn't rob, loot and pillage civilians.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 08 2016, @06:04PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday August 08 2016, @06:04PM (#385395) Journal

        Oh, don't get me wrong, I didn't say I supported their actions; just pointing out that when you set the conditions for riots etc don't be surprised when you get them. And quit propagating the memes that cause them; in a small way, these are partly on your head.

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